Probebly My Last Question Befor I Go And Blow £1500, So Help!

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HI again.

I have another question regarding my immenent purchase of home recording equipment.

I need to decide on a soundcard but i just cant do it so i though id ask for i little help. Here are my needs

I WANT TO PLUG MY FLEXTONE 3 AMPLIFIER USING THE XLR OUTS INTO THE SOUNDCARD, THEY HAVE A VARIABLE OUTPUT SIGNAL SO I DONT NEED A PREAMP.

I MAY WANT TO MIKE THIS AMP UP A SOME STAGE.

I WILL WANT TO MIKE UP A DRUMKIT AT SOME STAGE.

I WANT A MIDI IN OUT

I WOULDNT MIND HAVING THE OPTION TO PLUG MY GUITAR DIRECTLY INTO THE SOUNDCARD, ALTOUGH THIS IS NOT TO IMPORTANT AT THIS STAGE.

A FEW PHANTOM POWERED INPUTS WOULD BE NICE.

AS FAR AS OUTPUTS GO I WOULD JUST BE PLUGGING THEM INTO A PAIR OF POWERED MONITORS.

I WILL WANT TO USE OUTBOARD EFFECTS AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE, A COMPRESSOR OR AN EQ OR SOMETHING.

is there anything else i might need?

Could i get the Behringer ADA8000 and plug it into a cheap M auidio card, what would the results be like?

Thanks alot, everyone's help on this board has been invaluable! :)



Im almost there!

Jamie
 
I've just been introduced to the Presonus Firepod. Everything you mentioned for $600. I haven't decided on it yet, but I'm looking as well and it caught my attention.

M
 
An important rule: there are no rules. There's no ***best*** anything. What is best is what you get the results from. Don't worry about what others are doing. You'll never do anything worthwhile until it's what YOU want.
 
Thanks, unfortunatly the things you recommended are a bit out of my price range, the firepod is clsoe to $900 over in the UK, as is the motu stuff.
Would the behringer solution that i covered on the first post work?
 
it would work, but i think you would be a little dissapointed in the sound quality if you are using the behringer pre's
 
The problem with your plan is there is no cheap M-Audio card offering ADAT.

I think that ADA8000 unit is aimed more toward people who already have older ADAT gear.

You could do it with an E-Mu 1212 card. It's got ADAT but that's another $200
 
What about a Behringer ADA8000 plugged into an Emu 1212m souncard then, that would cost me about £270?

Anything better for the price?
 
hey man, im gonna try and save you some frustration here. Buy cheap, buy twice. trust me on this. Behringer ADA has really bad preamps in it, and you will be kinda dissappointed when you relize you need better stuff. Presonus firepod is really the way to go, or motu 896 HD.
 
i'm in the uk as well and yeah the firepod is so much more expensive - it sucks!

but check out the terratec pahse 88 rack and the m-audio 10101lt pci card....

£360 and £175 each - check it out at turnkey.co.uk

both have two mic pre's - and then you can add more when needed - such as audio buddy's £60 - or something much better if uv got the cash.....

jjmanton2's totally right tho - don't buy cheap - buy quality and build up your studio slowly.......cos a few high quality mic's and inputs are gonna sound a whole lots better than loadsa behringer mic pre's!!!
 
get the delta 66, that way if you want more inputs and outputs you can daisy chain more 66s together using the S/PDIF, up to 4 in the same system You can't sync two 44s as far as I know
 
I heard of someone with multiple Delta 44s on here, can't remember who though. Jam - the Soundcraft Compact 4 is one option, I would be more tempted by a Yamaha MG series for the money though. I picked up my MG10/2 for £35 on ebay (bargain!) but they're not actually expensive new. You can use the inserts as makeshift direct outputs and have one channel on your desk to one input on your soundcard.

I think 'clean' inputs are the best way, by that I mean just good converters without tieing yourself into preamps.

Don't get that Behringer unit, it's not really what you want. If you particularly want a Soundcraft desk, btw, get an M4 or M8. Excellent value - I bought an M12 a couple of months back and it is superb!
 
I think it is between the Mg and the Compact4 mixer. the compact4 has some features like direct guitar and bass input that i want. correct me if im wrong but i would need a seperate DI box if i got the Yamaha?
 
Yes you will need a DI box. However, a Behringer DI100 is very good value and only £26 from Dolphin.co.uk (I picked up three more a couple of weeks ago).

I'm a Soundcraft fan but you will only get two usable channels on that C4 - on the MG you will have up to four separate mics plus a pair of stereo channels. The MG is much more versatile - honest!
 
The Compact10 has 4 mic ins. The only reason i keep bringing up the compact is i heard a recording and it sounded great. That yamaha does look good though, are the peamps as good as the compact?

Thanks for all your help.
 
You're right that the C10 has four:

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Soundcraft/PR/COMPACT-4-10-lg.jpg

But the MG10/2 plus a DI box would still be cheaper.

To be honest, I don't know what the pres are like in the 'C' series, I know they're a step down from the M series which I have, and maybe also down from the 'E' series which is inbetween.

I will say this though - the MG pres blow away the equivalently-priced stuff. To my ears (I don't claim to have great ears yet!) they are more like Mackies. No great shakes, you might say, but for peanuts money that is a good buy.

But I won't rush to say anything bad about Soundcraft either - although those Compacts look like they're laid out quite confusingly ...
 
What about a preamp instead? Ive been looking at the Maudio DMP3. How does this compare to the Yamaha? If i bought the seperate preamp where would i plug in my monitors, presumably in the outputs of the soundcard, how would i adjust the volume of the monitors?
 
Exactly!! You would lose some of the control - it'd have to be done in your PC. The DMP-3 is by all accounts a higher gain, clean preamp. Better than the pres in the MG ... but not by a country mile.
 
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