Pro Tools. Yea or Nay?

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manning1 said:
if you have an open mind. try what i use.
youll be very surprised. if you want more info , or have q's - just ask.
note...48 tracks, 24 bit if you wish, and features like vocal pitch correction and harmonisation built in. to beat it , youll have to spend a lot of money,
and use many different software packages.
http://www.pgmusic.com/ptnewfeatures.htm
if you check on the user forums you will see some pro tools users use it.
peace.
ps..you can view an on line video tour of the product on this page...
http://www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm
as i said, keep an open mind...and be surprised.
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First off, the guy wanted opinions on Pro tools not this shit. Second, I see you decided to take it up a notch and start adding links. Very nice. I'm sure the people at 48fer49 software really love you for helping their website get indexed higher.


What a jerk.
:rolleyes:
 
Regardless of what anybody's opinion is Pro Tools is the industry standard in software recording PERIOD! I am a Pro Tools user only because all the files I mix are Pro Tools, all the people I record for want Pro Tools files, and it gave my studio instant credibility. As for the hardware, the Digi002 I feel is the best DAW interface I have found in terms of the intergrated mixer, 8 analog ins, ADAT and SPDIF inserts, plus great A/D converters. YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
ProTools 24 or HD might be the de facto standard in pro facilities, but certainly not PT LE. The fact that its "the industry standard" doesn't imply its the best either. Or would you say that "Windows" is the best operating system just because its used on 95% of all computers? Its like saying "billions of flies can't be wrong -- lets eat shit!" *LOL
 
Giganova said:
well: me ;) you'd be surprised how complex the arrangemenets of trance and other electronic music genres are.
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40 tracks to make music that boring? Hahahhaha.... :)

My primary music genre is electronic... I've found you need less tracks rather than more.
 
They're for all of those backup alternate takes (regarding the use of so many tracks) don't you know? (Stuart's Mom-Voice) for all of you who are also fans of MADTV
 
the core

now that everyone's bashed/praised pro tools le once more, can anyone offer me reasons why or why not to continue using it? i'm running an mbox right now and it does fine for what i've been doing but i plan on upgrading this summer. my experience with le thus far has been good but i've not been exposed to anything else.

also, i don't exactly understand how a particular piece of software can sound better or worse than another. the a/d conversion depends on hardware, not software, and digital summing technically shouldn't add any color at all. can someone explain this apparent phenomenon? thanks.
 
Clark_Griswold said:
Reason? Because you are a too cool "moist pro?"
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just answering his question. didnt feel like arguing....




signed,
"moist pro"


:)
 
we shouldnt have to offer u any reasons if u like what it does for you stick with it if not, dont... the best way i can put it is shop around try other stuff if u can find what fits you best
 
I was using an m-audio interface until about 6 months ago. the only thing I didn't like about it was that it only had 2 inputs. I swictched to the digi 002 because it had more and it was in my price range. I have used and still use cubase for the m audio box. I obviously have and use pro tools LE. All bull aside, I like protools becuase more people I know and trade files/work with have it. Also I noticed soliciting to clients, I fealt I had to really sell them on cubase and what I could do with it. It seemed like a solution that they could download and get the job done themselves. When I switched to Protools, even though it was LE, client confidence came along with the ease of moving and using files when I just tracked or just mixed or did overdubs for clients. The choice for me was all about prcaticality. If you dont have the money for TDM or HD, stick with the LE or whatever you like.
 
'Pro tools' is evil.

It's too expensive for what it is and what it can do. It became an 'industry standard' by default and because it's called what it's called.

If you really want to take a step up, get something with a very solid word clock and the ability to record @ at at 24bit/96kHz like this RME interface.

You'll be amazed at what a difference this will make in the quality of your tracks and mixes.
 
ssscientist said:
'Pro tools' is evil.

It's too expensive for what it is and what it can do. It became an 'industry standard' by default and because it's called what it's called.

If you really want to take a step up, get something with a very solid word clock and the ability to record @ at at 24bit/96kHz like this RME interface.

You'll be amazed at what a difference this will make in the quality of your tracks and mixes.
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....then you buy four preamps, a software program, and you're just about at the same price the 002 is (and well over the price of the 001)....damn Digi being so expensive and giving us hardware and software all together!! how dare they!!! a little over $1,000 for hardware and software?? that's ridiculous!!!











(by the way, how much is Nuendo 2.0 now??)
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thehouseofshawn said:
They're for all of those backup alternate takes (regarding the use of so many tracks) don't you know? (Stuart's Mom-Voice) for all of you who are also fans of MADTV
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Actually, in protools you don't have to do this. You can do multiple takes on one track with the use of multiple playlists. It conserves voices and processing power. Also, I've heard many of you saying protools sounds like ass... use the DITHERING stereo summing bus. Drag it into your plugins folder (drag the other summing bus out first)... it will sound as smooth as any nuendo/cubase system (because their stereo summing busses have done that since day 1). I'm gonna have to go with protools on this one. If you combine the price of a MOTU 828 MKII and Cubase SX, it will cost way more than a Digi002 rack system... and it will have similar features. I've used Cubase, Nuendo and Protools pretty exstensively. Protools rocks everything when it comes to the user interface and editing.
 
bennychico11 said:
....then you buy four preamps, a software program, and you're just about at the same price the 002 is (and well over the price of the 001)....damn Digi being so expensive and giving us hardware and software all together!! how dare they!!! a little over $1,000 for hardware and software?? that's ridiculous!!! (by the way, how much is Nuendo 2.0 now??) :rolleyes:
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I totally agree with you that the Digi002 is a great bundle for the price. No questions. But why do you compare PT LE with Nuendo and other products? Its like comparing a Honda Civic to a Lamborghini.

Have you ever compared the features of PT LE with other stuff like Logic, Nuendo, and Sonar?? They are in a totally different ball park! You needed to comare ProTools/HD + TDM to those sequencer/recording progs, and then need to compare prices again: how much would you have to spend on PT gear to just get it into the computer? I believe for $8G or only get the infterface, nothing else, right??
 
the biggest thing that pushed me away from protools was its inability to interact with other hardware/software.

from what i understand the protools hardware doesn't work too well with other programs. and the protools software has fits with non-protools hardware.

even though i have yet to get to 32 tracks i still don't like the idea of being limited. it would be nice to be able to swap files with all the other protools people but thats not that big of a deal for me. i would rather be happy with my own work even if it isn't compatable with everyone elses.

i use cubase with my presonus firepod. it ends up the costing less than using digi002 rack and gives 4 more preamps. although it is missing the adat lightpipe.
 
protools LE limits you to your hosts computers processing power. you cannot use dsp cards like the uad1 or tc powercore. that, in my mind, is a MAJOR limitation....
 
Giganova said:
I totally agree with you that the Digi002 is a great bundle for the price. No questions. But why do you compare PT LE with Nuendo and other products? Its like comparing a Honda Civic to a Lamborghini.

Have you ever compared the features of PT LE with other stuff like Logic, Nuendo, and Sonar?? They are in a totally different ball park! You needed to comare ProTools/HD + TDM to those sequencer/recording progs, and then need to compare prices again: how much would you have to spend on PT gear to just get it into the computer? I believe for $8G or only get the infterface, nothing else, right??
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i compare them because those are two major selling software programs in the industry that are compared together. and yes, i have used Logic and Nuendo before, extensively. And I can't stand either one. Obviously it's personal preference, but I don't like they way you edit things and where everything is situated in the program. I just feel Pro Tools is much more organized in everything

mishagolin- yeah, PT only works with their own hardware...but that does two things. 1) It guarantees that the software well be compatible with the hardware no matter what. How many people have had trouble with a second party hardware not being recognized by their software?
2) it also prevents the pirating of software....which i think is a brilliant way of doing things from a companies standpoint. this also guarantees that the only people who will be able to record with the "industry standard" are people who are 100% serious about doing it. ie. professional studios/home studios. This way a studio that is charging $50 an hour doesn't hear a snicker when they open up Nuendo or Cubase, followed by the musician who says "That's funny...my 15 year old son has this program at home. He got it off Kazaa. We're using this?"

foreverain4- you CAN use dsp cards with pro tools, including the UAD-1. The only thing is that card will only work with the VST plugins in PT. That's because no second party has made an RTAS processing card.


The 002R is a great deal (IMO) and the Mbox is even a more awesome deal. Why should a musician at home have to pay $1000 for a software when they only need to track one or two tracks at a time by themselves?

have any of you people who are complaining against pro tools actually used it?
 
ssscientist said:
'Pro tools' is evil.

It's too expensive for what it is and what it can do. It became an 'industry standard' by default and because it's called what it's called.

If you really want to take a step up, get something with a very solid word clock and the ability to record @ at at 24bit/96kHz like this RME interface.

You'll be amazed at what a difference this will make in the quality of your tracks and mixes.
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002R and 002 DOES 24/96 (I think 192 as well).

EDIT: Sorry only 96k, not 192K, just checked.
 
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