printing effects to tape.

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Just a question regarding the effect ins and out on the 388.
Is it possible to record effects to tape using these ins and outs or can they be only used
to add effects after.?
Im recording certain parts with effects going through the loop but when I play back the recording is dry.
Is there a special way to do this or am I just stuck using the snd/rcv jacks.???
Thanks.
 
Well usually you set your effects then send the whole mix to another machine to master. But What you want to do can be done by sending whatever you want (lets say vocals) INTO your fx unit then connect the fx unit output into the channel you want recorded on. OR you can also bounce your current tracks (with selected fx) to two tracks (stereo) on the 388. So lets say you have 6 tracks and youve set the FX the way you like on the mixer. You can bounce all those 6 tracks to the last two tracks on the 388.
 
Ok.Thanks.
So there is no way of just using the effects loop to print an effect to tape?
I know its usually used for mix down to a master,but m just experimenting.
Like I am submixing a group of 4-6 drum mics to 2 tracks but I just want to record reverb on the snare only.So I was hoping I could send a reverb unit to the effects loop and dial in the amount of reverb I want onto the snare track and maybe a hint on the toms.
I know this is usually done after tracking,but like I said,I like to experiment.Im trying to avoid bouncing for now even though I do bounce now and then.
 
Well so I believe there is no other way... hope you can get it going
 
Well I figured out I could patch the effects to an another empty channel and control the amount added that way.Would still like to
be able to just use the effects loop to add effects to print to tape though.
Oh well.
 
My recollection of the 388 is not great. But, you should be able to assign the fx returns to whatever buss you want to record to. So, lets say you are bouncing down tracks to tracks 7/8. you can assign your FX returns to buss 7/8. I think the 388 calls busses PGRMs. but it's the same. I hope this helps.
 
The way you've figured out (using a spare channel) is the way studios have always done it.:rolleyes:
 
Access Send/Rcv

I'm pretty sure if you use the Access Send/Rcv patch points on the desired input, it will record effects inline down to tape.

Not sure by your description if you're using these patch points, or the Eff/Aux Send/Rcv subsystems, which would yield different results depending on how it was configured.:eek:;)
 
Thanks for the reply.
I know that I could use the snd/rcv inputs,but then it a totally affected track.I would like to be able to use the eff/aux inputs so I can use the eff/aux knobs to dial in just the right amount of effect I want to use.
I know this is usually done after but I like to submix my drums down to 2 tracks.So if I want only a hint of reverb on the snare,I would like to be able to dial a little bit in.If I use the eff knob after all the drums have been recorded, then all the drums,bass drum overhead,etc.. will be affected.I tried the snd/rcv but it sends too much of an effect to the track and I cant adjust it.
 
j.harv said:
Just a question regarding the effect ins and out on the 388.
Is it possible to record effects to tape using these ins and outs or can they be only used
to add effects after.?
Im recording certain parts with effects going through the loop but when I play back the recording is dry.
Is there a special way to do this or am I just stuck using the snd/rcv jacks.???
Thanks.
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If you're talking about a reverb patched in, in the normal way, with the effect return jacks, then no; that effect return path feeds to the stereo outs. But, if you re-patch the reverb's outs to two unused main mixing channels, you can then direct via the normal buss assignment buttons to feed the track or tracks of your choice.

When I had my old recording set up, that's how I ran mine and it added a lot of flexibility to either print reverb environments direct to tape or to just assign it to the normal stereo buss for mix down to another machine.

The one drawback to the 388's mixer is that it only gives you 8 main mixing channels to play with, so you have to be more thoughtful about when you want to do this as once the 8 channels are used up for tape playback, you won't have the spare channels any more on the mixer to make use of.

As an alternate patch, you could plug the reverb's returns directly into the buss sub inputs but doing this will force you to use the reverbs level controls to achieve the correct wet to dry sound you end up with.

Get the picture?

Cheers! :)
 
Try

Try patching the Eff/Aux Rtn signal from the effect device into the PGM Buss of the target track. That should work. :eek:;)
 
j.harv said:
The PGM buss would be the line input??????:confused:
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No, the buss SUB input jack which I described in my last post. That's a spot where you can inject additional signals to the track you want to record on. And in this case, that addition signal could be the reverb's output signal being printed to tape. The 388 has 8 PGM buss outs jacks and 8 fold back/sub input jacks labled as "PGM BUSS INS". We're talking about those inputs.

Cheers! :)
 
Thanks again to everyone.
I have just one more question.
When patched into the snd/rcv,does this go to the master stereo outs like the eff.loop?
Why Im asking is,I just did a simple sound test recording drums.I submixed down to 2 tracks.I put some light compression on the bass
drum and snare while tracking using the snd/rcv jacks for those channels.When I played back the track I decided to run a compressor into the snd/rcv jacks of the 2 channels I have the drums tracked on.I turned up the compressor output and the drums came out nice and punchy and loud.So what I want to know is,when It comes time to mix down,can I do this and have it go to the final mix?

Thanks.
 
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