practicing 7 beats!!!!

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hey, does any1 know on how to follow a 7beat in with keyboard, i tried it but always gettin outta beat!! any ideas!!??
 
Not sure what this has to do with "recording techniques"....but what are you asking? How do you play in a 7/4 time signature?
Just count to 7. Or count to 4 and then count to 3, you know...whatever :D
 
Listen to Pink Floyd's Money over and over again...

I believe Rush's Subdivisions is in 7/8.
 
The - square - root - of - for - ty - nine
The - square - root - of - for - ty - nine
The - square - root - of - for - ty - nine
The - square - root - of - for - ty - nine
 
n4eem said:
hey, does any1 know on how to follow a 7beat in with keyboard, i tried it but always gettin outta beat!! any ideas!!??
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Try accenting the first and fifth beats. Listen to 'Take Five' by Dave Brubeck ;) for a 5/4 classic. He accents the first and fourth beats. New Grass Revival had a Grammy winning song in 7/4 back in the mid 80's but I can't remember the name. Hope this helps, DAve.
 
Since this thread somehow switched to a discussion about 5/4 time, I gotta give another plug to "As we go along" by the monkees (from the Head soundtrack CD). Beautiful song. see here for mor Monkees Love....heh.heh
 
Listen to some eastern european (specially Hungarian, Bulgarian and Greek), middle eastern music, as well as the music from the Transcaucasian region (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan... specially Georgia and Armenia)... a lot of the folk dance music is in odd meters like 5/8 7/8 and the like.

Start drumming those beats with your heands to get a feel for the groove. Like l-r-l-r-l-r-r for 7/8, once you get comfy with that, shift the group of 3 around so you have 2+3+2, or 3+2+2... In order to stay in time it's important to feel the weak beats as well as the strong ones... breaking it down into it's groupings and counting like that helps to for example ONE two One two three One two.

It's funny, these meters are so ingrained in me that a lot of times subconsiously I'll be doing some odd thing when noodling around, then i'll have to figure out what meter it is that I'm using because it's not gonna fit 4/4... I have the opposite problem :D
 
the typical choice would be accenting 1-5 or 1-4 i guess........
 
OK one more cool song in 7/4 (or 7/8, or whatever). Heart of Glass by Blondie. Listen closely to the intrumental interlude. For a while it's a 8 beat phrase that repeats, then they switch over to 7, but it's almost the exact same. If you're dancing to it, it's where you have to do a quick little double-lunge forward, to keep in time. You may find yourself clapping twice at that point too. Provided you've got the big agressive grimacy overbite going, you will be the king of the dance floor knowing about this little rythmic change up. I also suggest loosening your tie, and pulling the sleeves up on your suit jacket and dress shirt.

I digress. It's a sweet little rythmic gimic, anyway. I've actually wanted to steal that idea for a song (same phrase in two different time sigs), but have yet to figure out a good place to stick it.
 
andyhix said:
If you're dancing to it, it's where you have to do a quick little double-lunge forward, to keep in time. You may find yourself clapping twice at that point too. Provided you've got the big agressive grimacy overbite going, you will be the king of the dance floor knowing about this little rythmic change up. I also suggest loosening your tie, and pulling the sleeves up on your suit jacket and dress shirt.
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What would be the proper drink-to-dance ratio?? :confused: Dave
 
noisewreck said:
You're not Qyavartsi by any chance are you? :D ;)
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No i'm originaly from Baky,but Armenian :eek: Armenikend to be more precise :D
 
Most seven beat material usually has an accent within the bar on either the fourth or fifth beat, i.e. 1 2 3, 1 2 3 4 or 1 2 3 4, 1 2 3 (where the beats are on '1'). Tapping this in your head as you are playing is one way of keeping it all together. Pink Floyd's 'Money' is basically 1 2 3, 1 2 3 4. (And Brubek's 'Take Five' is 1 2 3, 1 2)
 
I guess I'm strange. I tend to accent on the third and sixth beats. It sounds cool.
 
That's the beauty of odd meters. You can shift accents around, change the feel, and even have polyrhythmic plays among different instruments playing the same meter accenting in different places ;)
 
Really, this depends on the type of 7 you'd like to do. Really, you can subdivide the 7 however you'd like, and that's fine.

You could do 3-4, 4-3, 2-2-3, 3-2-2, 2-3-2, 1-3-2-1, 1-3-3, etc...

Heck, you could subdivide to the eighth and do 7-7, 6-8, 1-3-2-3-3-2...

Just figure out what the song is already doing, and work on a groove to that time sig. Like a bar of 3 followed by a bar of 4. Voila! Instant 7 bar groove.

Good luck.
 
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