Please help me! I wanna make TUNES!

[casino 666]

Right, this is my first post!

What i wanna do, is have my own studio kinda thing, as i want to make electronic music.......

I wanna make some banging Hard House tunes, yet id also like to make electronic break-beat stuff like Hybrid / Dust Brothers ETC

Exactly what do i need!? All i can gather is that i need a keyboard and a PC (ive got a PC)

what equipment will need to start off?

what keyboard do i need to make the patented 'hoover' sound!?

what computer programs will i need!?

Basically i need to know what and how im gonna make music!!!!!!

Thanks alot for the help

Gav

 

[Roel]

best start with a program, explore it, move on to the next; untill you understand what the idea is, then study the best program you can get. In the meantime, read ALL the posts on this forum, and get an idea of what's important, the do's and don'ts; the buy's and don't buy's... Study and gather all the info you can get. And be creative. Creativity is the only thing you cannot by. Make sure you keep working creative. Always. Keep at it. Take half an hour a day, just to be creative. Just trying stuff, without starting from a theoretical or technical point of view.

And have fun. That's important too...

 

[AlChuck]

For beats and looping you can't beat Sonic Foundry ACID Pro. They have a free version that's limited (only 8 tracks, I think?) and missing most of the fancier features but'll give you a good idea of what it's capable of.

Check it out at http://www.acidplanet.com/acid/home.asp

For everything you might want in one place, including ACID-type looping convenience, the new SONAR from Cakewalk is terrific, but it's expensive too and perhaps overkill for your needs. Not sure if they have a demo version up there yet. See

http://www.cakewalk.com/

 

[giaschel]

What's a "hoover" sound? Tell me in what song I can hear that...

 

[regebro]

hoover = vacuum cleaner.
If you wanna make TUNES I suggest you get a guitar.

(Sorry, could help myself).

 

[hixmix]

hoover=dam. Sounds like a lotta water to me.

 

[Wide Awake]

My girlfriends nickname is Hoover.

 

[VOXVENDOR]

For $500 you can pick up an old sampler, like an ensoniq eps-16, and a shitload of discs... you may even find that "HOOVER" sound somewhere in there... Make sure it's got a 16 track sequencer... There you go!!!!.. You don't even need a fuckin' console, just do your mixdown within the sequencer, right onto a cdr.... (although if you plan on doing lead vocals, you will need some sort of recording medium and small console... which I would suggest, being a little vs880, or something of the sort..... sorry but I have a hatred for computers (saying this as im sitting here typing on one).. I mean I hate computer multitracking like cubase, and all those other programs....And this above method worked for me in my early days....

Joe

 

[VOXVENDOR]

woo hoo, post number 69 above.... get it?.......nevermind....

 

[casino 666]

For $500 you can pick up an old sampler, like an ensoniq eps-16, and a shitload of discs... you may even find that "HOOVER" sound somewhere in there... Make sure it's got a 16 track sequencer... There you go!!!!.. You don't even need a fuckin' console, just do your mixdown within the sequencer, right onto a cdr....

Right, cool, But im sorry for sounding stupid, but im guessing the sampler gets connected to stuff to sample the sounds, but how and where does that connect to stuff!?

BY the way! The 'Hoover' sound is the sound that is used in loads of hard house tracks, it comes in so many different forms, download 'are you all ready' by Tony De Vit <<<< that is a Hoover tune

 

[VOXVENDOR]

You don't sound stupid, we all had to start somewhere, these are valid questions.... When you buy a used sampler, you are surely gonna get all the previous owners discs, which in most cases can be thousands of cool sounds.... But to make fresh samples, all you need is a cd player, and the sample cd of your choice be it drums, piano, techno sound... (be warned these are like $300 a piece, but have hundreds, and even thousands (in some cases) of sounds...... And all you need is a cable to go from the outs of your cd player to the "sample in" of the keyboard... (Ive never had to do this,cause i got more than enough sounds from the guy who sold my eps-16 to me....)

 

[VOXVENDOR]

I don't want to scare you away from computers.......I just personally don't like them... and the above methods, I posted are pretty economical, and easy ways to acheive your sound....

 

[casino 666]

wow, thanks for your help!

so i should look for a ensoniq eps-16 on ebay possibly?

and i now know how to sample 'in' but how do i hear what im sampling and where do i save it to!? so i guess my question is, what do i do i connect it 'out' to!?

sorry for all these stupid questions!

Gav

once again thanks for your help!

 

[VOXVENDOR]

Hook it up from the outs, into a stereo reciever or something of the sort..... Im just suggesting the sampler method, but don't run out and buy one today, wait for a few more replys, you may like some other Ideas better than mine... but i can say that, way back my method worked and is cheap... If you go this way, you don't nessecarily have to buy a eps 16. You should research, and see which sampler suits your needs best....Akai, makes good samplers...check out all options.....
Joe

 

[VOXVENDOR]

When you decide to buy something, ebay, is probably the best and safest place....

 

[casino 666]

i just checked out your web site! and ive kinda got an idea of the equipment you've got!

do you use a PC at all or not? or just the equipment you've got is enuff for you to make music?

could you give me a basic list of equipment i need to make some sweet electronic break beat / hard house tunes?

thanks again

gav

 

[VOXVENDOR]

I will never have a computer in my studio.... Well can't say never... in 50 years when all there is is computers and im 75, and still recording Bon Jovi cover bands, I will end up having to get one... I mean, adats can only be refurbed so many times...Every studio I've been in that has computers, seems to waste clients $$ tinkering with 300 different plug-ins.... My theory is... just record. I like computers, for internet and other stuff though. Lists??? Pay attention Gav, your falling asleep..... I listed my suggestions in the above posts for you...

 

[giaschel]

I personally think that, although e-bay is a good and safe place to find low prices, the problem is you cannot check the item before you buy it. Being in the UK, you can maybe start looking for used stuff around you. I’m sure you’ll find websites for local classified ads or music stores for used gear. You can then go and try it before buying.

Also, indeed, an Ensoniq may be good (I’ve never tried it) but there are plenty of other brands too. As VOX mentionned, it is usually generally accepted that AKAI make good samplers that have become standards. There is also Roland, E-mu, etc… Check the following websites for user reviews and comments. It should help you make a decision. Also check the respective company’s websites, helpful for specs.

www.sonicstate.com
www.harmony-central.com

Regarding other equipment, look at what these guys have:

https://homerecording.com/bbs//showthread.php?threadid=17158
http://www.theprodigy.org/includes/equipment.shtml

It’s just an example. This can be endless. You should use the search key and you’ll find plenty of information to read for days. You must determine what you want yourself. Take your time so you don’t end up with gear you didn’t really want and then have to buy again.

BTW, thanks for the “hoover” tip.

 

[casino 666]

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1423207359

what about this!? am i on the right track?