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Anyone played the Ibanez Jet King 1/2? I've looked into that, it seemes pretty sweet. Any opinions?
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Fender Jap kills Fender USA
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fender
im personally a fender guy i have numerous fender mexican strats with different pickups in the . and an ibanez s 4077 thats a great guitar but ..........its no fender i have a american delue tele with the s-1 system.its awesome if anybody in theforum knows the nashville studio musican kelly bach hes an amazing guityar player if u cant get brent mason then you call kelly he mostly play a mexican fender tele with stock pickups but i guess its all oppinion
ibanez s-470**
im personally a fender guy i have numerous fender mexican strats with different pickups in the . and an ibanez s 4077 thats a great guitar but ..........its no fender i have a american delue tele with the s-1 system.its awesome if anybody in theforum knows the nashville studio musican kelly bach hes an amazing guityar player if u cant get brent mason then you call kelly he mostly play a mexican fender tele with stock pickups but i guess its all oppinion
ibanez s-470**
kedman
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Have both! Squier and USA
HI
Re Fender and Squier.
I have both a 79/80 USA strat and an old Vintage Squier with a seymour duncan up and over twin on the bridge.
The actual squier neck is better for me that the other but the tone on the older start is more 'strat'. The two guitars actaully compliment each other well.
Go for the sound not the name!
A cheaper mexican strat will be a nice guitar in 20 years.
Cheers
Bob
HI
Re Fender and Squier.
I have both a 79/80 USA strat and an old Vintage Squier with a seymour duncan up and over twin on the bridge.
The actual squier neck is better for me that the other but the tone on the older start is more 'strat'. The two guitars actaully compliment each other well.
Go for the sound not the name!
A cheaper mexican strat will be a nice guitar in 20 years.
Cheers
Bob
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Ray J
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I still play a Squire Strat. The ones without the pickguard and the Demarzio or Demarzio-looking pickups. It replaced my Melody Maker in 1990 and I've used it exclusively ever since. It was with me at the House of Blues, Beale Street, New Orleans Jazz Fest, everywhere, and I can always spot the other musicians. Their the ones making their way to the front of the stage, stareing at the headstock trying to see what the hell I'm playing (and usually shaking their head in dismay).
I just like the neck and the 1st and 2nd toggle positions are really "strat-y".
F' em
I just like the neck and the 1st and 2nd toggle positions are really "strat-y".
F' em
kid klash
The original Mr. Nice Guy
IMHO, you'll be money ahead by buying a "real" Fender (MIM, MIJ, MIK, MIA), new or used, than a Squire... the "Fender" name on the headstock will give you an advantage if you ever decide to sell it or trade it in. People will take you more seriously too, if that matters to you.
The current crop of Squires are much better than they were a few years ago, but they still carry the stigma of a "second line" product, like the current Epiphone guitars distributed by Gibson. FWIW.
The current crop of Squires are much better than they were a few years ago, but they still carry the stigma of a "second line" product, like the current Epiphone guitars distributed by Gibson. FWIW.
groucho
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Fuck "stigma".
Fuck "people taking you seriously".
Fuck "resale value."
My humble opinion.
Chris
Fuck "people taking you seriously".
Fuck "resale value."
My humble opinion.
Chris
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Alright, thanks for the input guys. I think I have mad up my mind. Fender Standard MIM Strat HH with the dual humbuckers. I need dual-humbucking power, but I love that strat body and neck, so I think this combines the best of both worlds. If I didn't need a new amp I'd def. pimp it with some Seymour Duncan Jazz humbuckers at the neck, and maybe a SH-4 at the bridge. A new neck with a maple fretboard would be nice, but money doesn't grow on trees.......yet.
Thanks so much, and if you have any further comments, feel free to post them.
Thanks so much, and if you have any further comments, feel free to post them.
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notCardio
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Huh?
Why can't you get one with a maple fretboard already on it? Is that not an option on the MIM Standard HH? You will end up paying a LOT more in the long run if you do that, but I understand.
FWIW, the Squire that Wooten was playing was a Japanese Stagemaster or Showmaster, or whatever they're called.
Even though APL and I don't necessarily agree on the Squires, I second his opinion of the Carvins. Quality all the way through. I'm embarrassed to say that I just can't get past the headstock shape, or I'd have one for sure. Probably several. And except for the bolt-on strat series, they ain't cheap, another reason I don't have one. I'd really like a Holdsworth Fat Boy, but it's either that or car payments.
Anyway, enjoy and let us know how it turned out.
Why can't you get one with a maple fretboard already on it? Is that not an option on the MIM Standard HH? You will end up paying a LOT more in the long run if you do that, but I understand.
FWIW, the Squire that Wooten was playing was a Japanese Stagemaster or Showmaster, or whatever they're called.
Even though APL and I don't necessarily agree on the Squires, I second his opinion of the Carvins. Quality all the way through. I'm embarrassed to say that I just can't get past the headstock shape, or I'd have one for sure. Probably several. And except for the bolt-on strat series, they ain't cheap, another reason I don't have one. I'd really like a Holdsworth Fat Boy, but it's either that or car payments.
Anyway, enjoy and let us know how it turned out.
apl
Stand Up Comity
Cardioidpotent said:
We're probably not all that far apart. I wouldn't recommend one for a newbie guitar player unless they had someone experienced to help them get it going. The tuners on mine were unacceptable. And the neck ain't no Carvin, but what do you expect for $90?
kid klash
The original Mr. Nice Guy
groucho said:
Tell me how you feel about it in ten years.
jeap
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i would love to have a brand new squire standard strat.
the mexican fenders have CERAMIC magnet pickups - cheap.
the squire standards have alnico magnet pickups like the more expensive fenders.
you seriously dont have to switch out the pickups on the squire standards.
cheap guitars and even lots of more expensive guitars usually do need to be set up. nut slots, neck relief, bridge height and intonation.
learn how to do it yourself.
is the body plywood? who cares? nobody will say hey that sounds like plywood.
the mexican fenders have CERAMIC magnet pickups - cheap.
the squire standards have alnico magnet pickups like the more expensive fenders.
you seriously dont have to switch out the pickups on the squire standards.
cheap guitars and even lots of more expensive guitars usually do need to be set up. nut slots, neck relief, bridge height and intonation.
learn how to do it yourself.
is the body plywood? who cares? nobody will say hey that sounds like plywood.
groucho
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kid klash said:Tell me how you feel about it in ten years.
Shoot man, if, in ten years, I'm still broke enough to care about the difference in resale value between a Squire and a MIM...
I'm fucked already.
Seriously, though: I've never really been able to relate to the idea of treating a guitar as something that will eventually be resold - like a car. I buy them to play. And I never sell anything. It's always good to have an extra guitar around - even a beater.
But the bottom line is: when you find the guitar that just feels right to you, buy it! Regardless of what stupid country name is on the headstock.
Chris
apl
Stand Up Comity
This Fat-o-caster thing looks like a cool mod. I had a Fender Mustang which basically had neck, neck+bridge, and neck+bridge out of phase wiring. I'd like to add that to my rawkin' Squier Bullet.
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DenverRob
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My 2 cents
Well you got 3 pages of replies and 100 opinions, so here's one more.
I have an Eric Clapton strat, paid $1100 10 years ago, sounds and plays great. I also have an American Standard Tele that I paid $600 for in the early 90's. But those are out of your price range, so what's the best for your finances?
I recommend focusing on the guitar first, then the amp. A crappy guitar can't be made to sound good through a great amp. Similar philosophy with pickups. The sound starts with the wood vibrating, so crappy vibrations from crappy wood will still sound crappy even through upgraded pickups. Garbage in, garbage out.
The American-made strats will be guaranteed to be alder (or swamp ash optional). Who knows what kind of wood you're getting with the Mexican or Korean (Squire) guitars? Having said that... sometimes you get lucky. The wood one an individual Squire might turn out to sound pretty good. The only way to know is to play it and compare to other strats. So I endorse the comments made by someone here who said, play the guitar, if you like the sound, that's all that counts.
I also bought one of the Carvin bolt-on kits. I paid $400 which included a swamp ash body. I bought it mainly as a learning thing, to learn what goes into assembling a guitar. I was surprised to find how good it sounds. It's sound *is* a little different than the Fender strats, however. Nastier, edgier. A good rock guitar. And I have two other Carvins, so I can vouch for the quality of their instruments and the great value. They cut out the distributor and retailer markups.
Rob
Well you got 3 pages of replies and 100 opinions, so here's one more.
I have an Eric Clapton strat, paid $1100 10 years ago, sounds and plays great. I also have an American Standard Tele that I paid $600 for in the early 90's. But those are out of your price range, so what's the best for your finances?
I recommend focusing on the guitar first, then the amp. A crappy guitar can't be made to sound good through a great amp. Similar philosophy with pickups. The sound starts with the wood vibrating, so crappy vibrations from crappy wood will still sound crappy even through upgraded pickups. Garbage in, garbage out.
The American-made strats will be guaranteed to be alder (or swamp ash optional). Who knows what kind of wood you're getting with the Mexican or Korean (Squire) guitars? Having said that... sometimes you get lucky. The wood one an individual Squire might turn out to sound pretty good. The only way to know is to play it and compare to other strats. So I endorse the comments made by someone here who said, play the guitar, if you like the sound, that's all that counts.
I also bought one of the Carvin bolt-on kits. I paid $400 which included a swamp ash body. I bought it mainly as a learning thing, to learn what goes into assembling a guitar. I was surprised to find how good it sounds. It's sound *is* a little different than the Fender strats, however. Nastier, edgier. A good rock guitar. And I have two other Carvins, so I can vouch for the quality of their instruments and the great value. They cut out the distributor and retailer markups.
Rob
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Oh, I definitely think you should pimp the Squire. Why? Oh, I dunno. I don't actually have any good reason, I guess. I just think "pimp" is such a cool word to use as an verb. So, go ahead, dude, pimp that Strat! Slap it around. Make it walk the streets. Refer to it as your "ho."
Yep, that's definitely the way to go.
Brad
Yep, that's definitely the way to go.
Brad
junplugged
Taking the slow road
Maybe he means 'trick' it out. Like mine, it got run over by my car.
Bassman Brad
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Well, sure, that would work, too. But, I mean, c'mon. EVERYBODY's got a customized axe. How many people have a street-walkin' axe?junplugged said:
BTW, you have a very interesting approach to guitar customization. Let me guess, you didn't want to pay the Fender Custom Shop for one of those "distressed" guitars, right?
Brad
junplugged
Taking the slow road
I got a Squire in the late 80's, a black strat. Neck was nice, had the old high polish on it, not like the woody ones, it was $300 back then, and that was cheap for guitars at the time so the $150 ones now are insane....Bassman Brad said:Well, sure, that would work, too. But, I mean, c'mon. EVERYBODY's got a customized axe. How many people have a street-walkin' axe?
BTW, you have a very interesting approach to guitar customization. Let me guess, you didn't want to pay the Fender Custom Shop for one of those "distressed" guitars, right?
Brad
I got it as a kick around cheapy, and it's a good thing too b/c when it had a little accident, I really didn't care. I'll have to find a pic of it to continue....
Gear_Junky
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I had a Yamaha Pacifica "fat strat" for years. It was excellent the way it came, very pretty translucent red finish, solid ash body, maple neck, etc. Later I chose to upgrade to Seymour Duncan pups, (Custom Custom for that buttery tone) and it made it even better.
I stopped playing a few years back and this guitar was given as gift to a friend song-writer, who still uses it to record.
Fender is ok, I've had their Jazz basses, but Yamaha would be cheaper and I don't see how Fender is going to be better than Yamaha! Yamaha has excellent attention to detail, all the frets will be perfectly even, stock pickups are always better. It's a great deal!
I stopped playing a few years back and this guitar was given as gift to a friend song-writer, who still uses it to record.
Fender is ok, I've had their Jazz basses, but Yamaha would be cheaper and I don't see how Fender is going to be better than Yamaha! Yamaha has excellent attention to detail, all the frets will be perfectly even, stock pickups are always better. It's a great deal!