SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
There's a difference between frequency response and pitch. Let's not confuse the two.
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Robert D
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With all the talk of absorbtave/reflective surfaces, I think one may also apply the un-curtain-ty principle too. (*groan*)
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With a "really hot cup of tea" further affecting the improbability function AND the theory of relative humidity factor. I think we're on to something here. Maybe the tempo really is slowing down, but so are we, so we don't percieve it?
SouthSIDE Glen
independentrecording.net
Well, I'm of two thoughts about that: first, we probably can perceive it, but only out of the corners of our ears and only if we're not listening.
And I don't know about you, Rob, but I know I am slowing down, and a really hot cup of tea sounds better every day.
Now where's my towel...
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so when i go real fast, the tempo of a song changes but so does everything that i would use to measure said effect so i can't tell?
i think i've heard this theory before.......
i think i've heard this theory before.......
rayc
retroreprobate
The Dop - pler effect, as described by the excretance (in a 54 - 46 mix of air & semi solids) post good combodian curry travelling the realtively short distance from the rectal tweeter to (and hopefully only semi permeable) the membrane of the size 43" waist of off white (or previously white depending on the continecal drift) private parts wrapper combined with the lower frequencies of the sub that follow 1 phase wave form later, as is only possible when the anal sphincter is dilated after tweeting, may well be the cause of the relative humiliation if performed in public or the presence of a relatively new partner.
This impression/perception is exaggerated if accompanied by the colour red (not scarlet or any tonal variation however) due to the generally accepted, albiet only anecdotally presented, concept as in the algebraic expression where R represents RED, & A represents acceleration: R=A or, colloquially, Red GO Faster!
This anomoly can be countered, if not neutralised, by the application of a nice cup of tea & a good lie down.
This impression/perception is exaggerated if accompanied by the colour red (not scarlet or any tonal variation however) due to the generally accepted, albiet only anecdotally presented, concept as in the algebraic expression where R represents RED, & A represents acceleration: R=A or, colloquially, Red GO Faster!
This anomoly can be countered, if not neutralised, by the application of a nice cup of tea & a good lie down.
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nononsense!
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Good thing you begin about this chinglnc.
I have noticed it for years and the difference is very big. Your testing method could be much simpler I think.
Just put your headphone on with house music for a few minutes, then put of the headphone and listen to the same headphone while it is just not on your head. The tempo is much faster!
And I don't know why!
But it could be that the bassdrum is more perceived when the phones are on, the bassdrum only plays the 4/4 notes. But when the headphone is off you hear the closed hihats playing 16ths.
I have noticed it for years and the difference is very big. Your testing method could be much simpler I think.
Just put your headphone on with house music for a few minutes, then put of the headphone and listen to the same headphone while it is just not on your head. The tempo is much faster!
And I don't know why!
But it could be that the bassdrum is more perceived when the phones are on, the bassdrum only plays the 4/4 notes. But when the headphone is off you hear the closed hihats playing 16ths.
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nononsense!
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Good thing you begin about this chinglnc.
I have noticed it for years and the difference is very big. Your testing method could be much simpler I think.
Just put your headphone on with house music for a few minutes, then put of the headphone and listen to the same headphone while it is just not on your head. The tempo is much faster!
And I don't know why!
But it could be that the bassdrum is more perceived when the phones are on, the bassdrum only plays the 4/4 notes. But when the headphone is off you hear the closed hihats playing 16ths.
I have noticed it for years and the difference is very big. Your testing method could be much simpler I think.
Just put your headphone on with house music for a few minutes, then put of the headphone and listen to the same headphone while it is just not on your head. The tempo is much faster!
And I don't know why!
But it could be that the bassdrum is more perceived when the phones are on, the bassdrum only plays the 4/4 notes. But when the headphone is off you hear the closed hihats playing 16ths.
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chinglnc
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Good thing you begin about this chinglnc.
I have noticed it for years and the difference is very big. Your testing method could be much simpler I think.
Just put your headphone on with house music for a few minutes, then put of the headphone and listen to the same headphone while it is just not on your head. The tempo is much faster!
And I don't know why!
But it could be that the bassdrum is more perceived when the phones are on, the bassdrum only plays the 4/4 notes. But when the headphone is off you hear the closed hihats playing 16ths.
hi hi there,
which one for you is faster or slower??the headphones or the speakers?
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chinglnc
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ahhhhhh!!!!
I GOT WHAT U MEANT NOW!!!
I HEARD IT!!! I HEARD IT!!!
I GOT WHAT U MEANT NOW!!!
I HEARD IT!!! I HEARD IT!!!
legionserial
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Walters? 
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Chasden
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I know when I first wake up in the morning, music seems "faster" to me, but I generally attribute that to my slower reaction times in the morning, as I've just woken up!
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We all have different eyes/ears/brains, so it's certainly possible for us to perceive the same pitch or colour differently (for example, we may both hear a F#, and one person's brain simply processes it slightly higher than another person's, but they will both agree that it's F#...not sure how to explain that really!).
It's certainly also possible that some people can process things more quickly than others, and as a result, time goes by more "slowly" for them, giving an outside observer the impression that the person has, for example, great reflexes or is a quick thinker.
Hey, Einstein proved that time is relative to the observer's frame of reference, so why can't we perceive the same exact tempo differently in different situations?
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We all have different eyes/ears/brains, so it's certainly possible for us to perceive the same pitch or colour differently (for example, we may both hear a F#, and one person's brain simply processes it slightly higher than another person's, but they will both agree that it's F#...not sure how to explain that really!).
It's certainly also possible that some people can process things more quickly than others, and as a result, time goes by more "slowly" for them, giving an outside observer the impression that the person has, for example, great reflexes or is a quick thinker.
Hey, Einstein proved that time is relative to the observer's frame of reference, so why can't we perceive the same exact tempo differently in different situations?
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I think this is a mind trick. I was skeptical of the whole concept when I read this thread; 120 bpm is 120 bpm, regardless of pitch, distance, yada yada. the notes will still arrive at your ear at exactly the same interval relative to each other. But listening to a simple rock tune I find that I have a certain, albeit limited, ability to affect how I perceive the tempo. I can't make the song play slower or faster, but if I focus on the song as being "uptempo" then it seems about 5 bpm faster than when I think of it as being "downtempo". I find this same phenomenon occurs when I'm writing riffs on the guitar to a drum loop, and trying to decide whether the tempo suits the emotion I'm looking for. Sometimes it's hard to decide an exact tempo because how it feels seems to change after some time playing it at any given speed. I think that it's especially true when you're playing because as you become more confident playing the piece, what seemed too fast to play smoothly to begin with becomes easier and almost too slow after a while. In a capacity purely of being a listener, my only explanation is that it has to do with mood and emotion - as I said, it's a trick that your mind plays on you. I don't think it has anything to do with headphones vs. speakers, and that is why the results of you and these engineers you know are not consistent.