Pan?

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I've recorded a couple tracks on a new song. Trying to get one of my tracks to pan left. The adjustment in cakewalk indicates that it is happening but during playback, the audio still sounds centered. I've tried panning to extreme left and right but no affect. This track was recorded in stereo. Any thoughts?
 
Output device also might require panning

You may also need to set panning on whatever output device you are going to. I often playback to a digital mixer and often forget to pan those channels hard left and right. So, even though I panned my Cakewalk channels left and right, the mixer moves them back to center.
 
Good thought but, I am using cakewalk as the mixer. Any other ideas? I even did a final export to MP3 and the playback shows the same results.
 
Is this a new problem that's popped up, or your first time with the setup?
Try importing a stereo wave?
How about aux's? Any sending a duplicate signal that's panned to center?
Wayne
 
I'm new to the 2.2xl. I've never used it before. I imported a "demo"...during playback, I can get the pan function to work. I guess this points more toward my recording...I'm not sure what to think of this.
 
What is recorded on the track? Generally you don't pan stereo tracks - since they are stereo they, in essence, are already "panned."

For example, if you record a piano in stereo (e.g., lower keys to the left and higher keys to the right) and you pan the track hard left, you will end up just getting the left track (i.e., the lower keys) and not the entire piano panned left.

Panning simoly determines how much of the signal comes from each speaker. When you pan hard left you get 100% of the signal from the left speaker. When you pan center you get equal volumes from both left and right speakers. On a mono track, hard left panning will make it sound like the instrument has been placed to the left. On a stereo track it means you will get only whatever is on the left track.

Depending on what is on your track, you might want to convert it to mono. You'll have a lot easier time trying to pan it.
 
Sorry to branch off your topic a bit Punkin...:rolleyes:
Does anyone feel like it would be cool to have an option on a stereo track to pan 'in' (and out) vs just L/R?
Like sometimes I want a stereo track W/ compression, but still have in-out control...
Apologies...now back to the thread...:)
 
Mr. Mixsit...you're absolutely right that would be nice. Even when in stereo, it would be nice to have more control over the imaging.

Here's my "thing" more detailed. I've recorded some etherial effects generated by my Triton Le. Just sort of an ambiance/background sound. I wanted it to fade in from the left then out on the right. I have the keyboard left into my delta1010 input#3 then my keyboard right into input #4. In cakewalk, I selected the input for this track as "Stereo M-Audio Delta 1010 3/4.

In the track and mix views, these inputs appear as a single stereo track. With both Pan controls linked together.

Should I have selected each of the keyboard inputs as seperate mono tracks?

Thanks all.
 
Most keyboards have a stereo output. I'm not sure if recording them as separate mono tracks would work.

Try this. Highlight the track in question and select Edit > Bounce to Track. Then from the drop down box next to format, choose Mix Stereo Content to Mono.

Mute the original track and see if you can pan the new track like you want. If it works for you, you can then delete the original track.

BTW, you will have to use a pan envelope to get it to sweep from left to right (but I assume you know that already).
 
This is getting frustrating...

I tried bouncing to a new mono track then fiddling with the Pan controls. When I pan hard left, the audio drops out...when I pan right, the audio seems to get a little louder. Almost as if the bounced track is a right channel track to begin with...but it's not.
 
punkin said:

... I wanted it to fade in from the left then out on the right. I have the keyboard left into my delta1010 input#3 then my keyboard right into input #4. In cakewalk, I selected the input for this track as "Stereo M-Audio Delta 1010 3/4....
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Then I don't know why pan is not functioning. You should be able to fade-up, panned left, then pan right right, then fade out. Envelopes would be great for fine tuning this.

..Unless... 'stereo pan' just piles 'left over on top of right'???
Guess I don't do enough stereo-panned tracks to know for sure...:confused:

Another factor/option: IF the effect is better in stereo (at least when it's passing throug the center) use L and R mono tracks and two sets of volume and pan envelopes. Then you can go anywhere with it.
Sounds like fun.:D
Wayne
 
punkin said:
This is getting frustrating...

I tried bouncing to a new mono track then fiddling with the Pan controls. When I pan hard left, the audio drops out...when I pan right, the audio seems to get a little louder. Almost as if the bounced track is a right channel track to begin with...but it's not.
Click to expand...

Stupid question...Can you pan just any ol' mono track ok?
That is weirder yet.
Oops. 'nother question. Is the bounced mono track hotter in the waveform display? Thinking phase-canelled here...?
 
Ok...did a simple test. Some limited results.

Recorded a simple line in mono. Pan left completely muted. Pan right just more volume but still centered. Bottom line is I can't seem to pan left or right.

Is it possibly something with the audio card? The In select lists all the delta inputs as in pairs...1/2, 3/4, 5/6 etc..

After recording and monitoring the cakewalk project, I exported to WAVE...the pan is working. What thu? I just can't seem to observe this during the mix. How much does that suck?
 
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Ok...I'm just stupid...I figured out what was going on...my playback was going to my right side front and rears...I selected a different out put pair and now all is well.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
 
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