Palm muting too loud

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Hi, I have a small problem, when i record distorted guitar, my onyx mixer picks up the palm muting LOUDER than the actual strumming, which if anyway it should be vice-versa.
I`ve had some nice recordings from exactly the same set up i`m using now but this is just irritating now, I`ve already tried:

different head
different speaker
Different mic
Different mic positions
different amp placements
fiddling with EQ
changing compressor settings

any help would be REALLY appriciated
 
I don't think your mixer is amplifying your palm mutes. It's just capturing what's coming it's way. You listed all the variables you've tweaked--except one: technique.

It's gotta be in the way you're playing...
 
Did you try your pickup position. it might change it a little.
 
WhiteStrat said:
I don't think your mixer is amplifying your palm mutes. It's just capturing what's coming it's way. You listed all the variables you've tweaked--except one: technique.

It's gotta be in the way you're playing...
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I palm mute with picking hand right next to the bridge, i`ve had no problems with this technique before, the problem started a few months ago.
I`ll try the multiband compressor which tarnationsauce2 mentioned. But i`ve never had to use one before, i just dont know why its happening NOW.
And adferrendelli, i`m using the bridge pickup, like i always have done. I was thinking origionally it maybe bass resinance so choosing the neck pickup really isnt a way round given its lower tone.
 
stupid_brian said:
I palm mute with picking hand right next to the bridge, i`ve had no problems with this technique before, the problem started a few months ago.
I`ll try the multiband compressor which tarnationsauce2 mentioned. But i`ve never had to use one before, i just dont know why its happening NOW.
And adferrendelli, i`m using the bridge pickup, like i always have done. I was thinking origionally it maybe bass resinance so choosing the neck pickup really isnt a way round given its lower tone.
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The neck pickup may be darker than the bridge pickup, but it also wouldn't be right under your hand when you're doing the palm mutes. Given your description of your technique, the problem might be having the active pickup right under the point of the strings that are resonating most.

At least give the neck pup a try.
 
It could be that it's the bass frequencies that a palm mute induces that is causing this. Maybe you should turn your bass down a bit. Let the bass guitar pick up the duty of the low end. You'll still get the same impact.
 
I agree with the above post, use a multiband compessor to your advantage. It's always easier to take a little away instead of trying to add something back.
 
stupid_brian said:
I palm mute with picking hand right next to the bridge, i`ve had no problems with this technique before, the problem started a few months ago.
I`ll try the multiband compressor which tarnationsauce2 mentioned. But i`ve never had to use one before, i just dont know why its happening NOW.
And adferrendelli, i`m using the bridge pickup, like i always have done. I was thinking origionally it maybe bass resinance so choosing the neck pickup really isnt a way round given its lower tone.
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Maybe due to the position of your amp within the room. If it's anywhere near a corner, your bass frequencies will be greatly enhanced. I've placed amps in a corner plenty of times to get a little more girth out of a smaller sounding amp
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
It could be that it's the bass frequencies that a palm mute induces that is causing this. Maybe you should turn your bass down a bit. Let the bass guitar pick up the duty of the low end. You'll still get the same impact.
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daz probably it....
 
Whoa whoa whoa, back the fuck up here. There are a few VITAL questions that need to be answered for anybody to help:

1 - What amp are you using?
2 - What kind of cab are you using?
3 - What settings are you using?

Your recording chain is NOT the problem, PERIOD! My guess is you've got your guitar/amp sounding FULL BY ITSELF, which will sound like ASS-BUTT-POOP-DUMP in the mix. If your bass knob is anywhere more than 3, you're fucking yourself.

Answer these questions, we'll supply you with answers :D
 
Turn the bass knob down on your amp. It'll get rid of that boominess.
 
maybe try re-amping? Keep your original guitar tone for most of the song- However, when you re-amp .... just tweak the amp/guitar/mic placement(etc.) and replace just the loud palm muting sections.
Mulitband compressor should help also. Good luck.
 
Wait a minute! I think we've all missed something obvious! Have you checked the volume on your palm?
 

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I'd strip down the chain, just try the amp, clean, adjust the mids, and the bass levels. I would guess it's something in the low end, judging from the eq that most metal bands use.;)
 
+1 to turning down the low on the amp, adjusting your playing technique, and using a multi-band set from about 60-240hz

a quick sidenote to turning down the lows...not only do you not want a bunch of low end rumble being captured by the mic that you're only going to have to cut out later, but turning down the lows gives the amp more headroom to pump out the mids and "highs"...as i'm sure a lot of people here know, it takes more energy to amplify low frequencies, so get that shit out of there.
 
...aaaaaaaaannnnnnd this thread is in the mic forum ...WHY?:confused:
 
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