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Two thumbs up!

I just want to say that despite the fact that alot of people on this board may not like "commercial rock" you guys nailed it. But even more impressive is your recording skills. I absolutely cannot tell a difference in your sound and a major studio release. Sure, we could say it's missing this or missing that, but all of those comments would be subjective and purely opinion. You my friend are setting a standard on this board, not following. You have something there that you can be very proud of. I like the REALNESS of the recordings. No rapping or samples or things like that. It sounds new but it is still straight up rock and roll with some impressive musicianship on top of that. In hearing these songs I feel that if I caught you guys live it would sound that way, and thats hard to do these days. Pro Tools and the like have been helping musically challenged bands sound like real bands for some time now. You can usually hear it in the recordings, because they lack the REALNESS. Well, I will shut up now. Keep it up and please stay with the board, we need examples of quality.

Brian
 
Yeah.. I'm with the opinion that this is a great job!


Good tune... Everything is great.... The only thing I can suggest is a tad (and only a tad) louder on the kick and snare.... but don't touch anything else.... it's perfect.

Awesome Guitars...




Awesome Job all around..... Im Jealous. :D

(I listened to Plastic Smile)
 
I listened to all three, "When it rains" was my favorite...thought a nice solo was gonna break @ 2:50, but it was cool without it too. Nothing wrong with anything to my deaf ear's. Thought the "vocals"..as great as everything else sounded, were a notch above all of it. The bk/ups..killer too! Glad I took the time to listen, and good luck...
 
Thanks, again guys.
Wes: Yeah, we are in the process of shopping for management right now. We've got a couple of prospects that are really interested in checking us out. It's interesting that each company has their own style of managing. One was really interested in national tours with established bands and gueling touring schedules, for primarily all ages shows. Another books locally and tours sometimes, but only at bars and bigger venues with better know acts. It's too early to in the game to say who we want to go with and we need to allow sufficent time to weigh all our options. we are both just kind of feeling each other out at this stage.
Mixmkr: ha ha ha, thanks bro! These songs are not really my style but we really wrote these songs specifically for a target audience of young kids that don't really understand "technical music". Their was great thought placed on how we could skirt the line between pop and hardrock, so we could be commercialy marketable and still rock at the same time. I'm really interested in appealing to the mainstream listener and securing a future in the music biz. I think the guitars came out pretty decent. I quadrupled them and ran the same compressor trick I used for the vox on two of the tracks. Used a stereo widener on the other two. Man, I should take a pic of my "studio" and post it. You guys would laugh you asses off! I've got 16 rolls of fiberglass insulation wraped in plastic bags in the corners of the room and ugly ass foam and blankets from the thrift shop stapled all over. It's pretty comical.
Sixstringblues: Thanks man :) We're sellout that can't rap or afford samples :)
 
it rocks (plastic smile)

Very impressive... song sounds like a shiny set of teeth with just a thin film of plaque over 'em... get 'em brushed, and they'd shine, even if they are plastic teeth ;)

Nice energy and emotion... I particularly like the drums... they're not squashed up like many drums are in the genre. Kick drum sounds sweeeeeeeeet... Vox are loud enough imo, since in this genre they're often mixed about like this...

A little 'verb on something for some depth would be nice now and again... (need to do the same thing with my mixes :))

Other than that, you're good to go. Pay the guy his $$$ for mastering and you're set.


Chad

EDIT: (About the reverb...) Then again, I'm absolutely in love with the sound of Disturbed's "Prayer"... bone dry, punchy, and just freaking groovy. This compares to that fairly well, except for the more Scott Stapp-like vocals you're getting (which isn't a bad thing...) Enough rambling... DL'ing your other stuff... to burn for my private collection of great toons... muhahahahahaha!!!

Wait... is it EVIL to do that? :)
 
when it rains...

This mix does sound even better, but is it just me... or are the lead vox a touch sibilant? On both T's & S's... not extremely annoying, but noticeable...

Nice song; great heavy groove...
 
well.... I'm a BUMPIN!!!

...these songs are just too good, and the recordings too excellent to be missed...

...and also to weasel some information, if I may :D

How in the WORLD did you get those guits to sound so good? Close mic w/57 & a condenser 6 feet away, and mix to taste? They have a tremendous amount of bite, but they aren't all mushy and muddy between 200 & 350 like many loud guitar mixes I hear here, as well as my own...

obviously the guitarist has his part in the tone... but those trax (hard panned elec's) sound just about perfectly recorded... ah hell, I'm just gonna ask... what was the signal path on the guits?

Do tell? Thanks! :D


Chad (anxious idea thei--- er, idea borrower :D)
 
Man this sounds good-Guitars sound excellent-I havent read others replies -hope im not too redundant---love that bridge at ~2:00-that polychord sound--nice--really tight band-catchy tune. The only mix suggestion would be to turn the vox up a hair- When everything is blaring in the chorus the vox werent riding on top as much as the verse. Real good for a home job-bass drum sounded real good-but I especially like the guitars real nice job.
 
this is pretty kickass! Why dont you spill the recording details?

killer guitar tones
bass guitar could use more " zing" but that might kill the evilness
 
The beans...

Ok let me know if you want anything specific but here goes. We've got two guitars in the band, me and or other guitarist. I'm playing a gibson explorer through an ADA MP-1 preamp into a highly modded fender twin then into a marshall 4X12. I think on plastic smile the other guitar player was running through my rig with his LP. On the other two songs our other guitar player is runnig his LP through an ADA mp1 also and then through a mesa 50/50 into a marshall 4X12. Let's see, on my rig I used a c1000 and a sm57 right up on the grill on different cones both running through our mackie board. On the other guitar players rig we used a c1000 and a 57 on the grill and a Studio projects c1 split right down the middle about 8 inches out and mixed down in the mix, also through the mackie. We each doubled our guitar parts, then I panned them to opposite sides. I took one of his guitars and one of mine(also panned opposite) and cut out all the low end and equed the f*ck out of the high end, I'm talking serious eq at about 2000. Then I compressed the snot out of those two. On the other two remaining tracks I used a S1 stereo imager on it and ran the shuffler at about 1.7. then I mixed the two together and and highpassed everything over 160hz. That's about it, I ran the same thing for all three songs. Oh yeah, we also stacked rolls of insulation behind the stacks to kill a lot of relection. It really tightened up the low end, worked real nice. Let me know if you want to know anything else.
 
you did a hell of a good job producing this stuff. the mix is very good and consistent across the tunes. not my genre but its glitcheless and structured nicely. It seems a little flavor of compression is inherrent throughout. personally I`d back off the 57 on that speaker and get a little more ambience, but its cool the way it is.
 
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