OS X questions

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I'm not sure if HR is the best forum to ask this on, since it's mostly a tech question, but here it goes.

I'm wondering if any here has any experience installing OS X (10.2) on an old world machine. I've tried using one partition, two and three partitions, removing unecessary drives and cards, and checking (and rechecking) drive termination. Still, the most success I've had is for 10.2 to install, but upon rebooting, the machine either hangs at the light grey/dark grey Apple logo, or give the dark grey/light grey screen that has a cirle with a line though it.

Machine specs are:

PowerMac 9600
G3 900 Mhz processor
338(?)mb ram
4 gb SCSI hard drive
24x SCSI CD-ROM
SCSI zip 100
Yamaha 4416 SCSI CD-RW
DLINK DFE-510tx+ PCI NIC
OrangeMicro USB/FW card (PCI)
Rage 128(?) PCI video card
IXMicro twin view PCI video card

Any thoughts?


Jason
 
Oh yeah, I've been using XPostFacto 4 to try my install. I think I've also tried version 3.1(?), with worse results.

Jason
 
Mac OS designs are not backward compatible with older processors. The RISC chip is not legacy due to it's lack of onboard instruction sets. When coding the OS they usally only include instuctions for processors that are powerfull enough to run the OS without performance issues.

I have successfully used OS10.42 on a G4 processor. I think the G3 is too old.
 
Even for 10.2? I had it running fine on my old powerbook g3 (333mhz)...

Jason
 
Check out this link. OSX hardware specs

OSX supports G3 - G5 processors. It doesn't support processor upgrade cards. I've found that some 3rd party hardware works with some versions of OSX and not others.

The Digi001 only works with version 10.34...... my Adaptec SCSI card is not supported at all.
 
JoeNovice said:
OSX supports G3 - G5 processors. It doesn't support processor upgrade cards.
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Right, that's where XPostFacto is supposed to come into play.
 
JoeNovice said:
Mac OS designs are not backward compatible with older processors. The RISC chip is not legacy due to it's lack of onboard instruction sets. When coding the OS they usally only include instuctions for processors that are powerfull enough to run the OS without performance issues.

I have successfully used OS10.42 on a G4 processor. I think the G3 is too old.
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Uhh... no, Apple still shipped G3 systems until about a year ago.... It most certainly is not an unsupported CPU.... I'm not sure why XPostFacto isn't working on a G3-upgraded 9600, but it isn't the processor....
 
cowboyj said:
I'm not sure if HR is the best forum to ask this on, since it's mostly a tech question, but here it goes.

I'm wondering if any here has any experience installing OS X (10.2) on an old world machine. I've tried using one partition, two and three partitions, removing unecessary drives and cards, and checking (and rechecking) drive termination. Still, the most success I've had is for 10.2 to install, but upon rebooting, the machine either hangs at the light grey/dark grey Apple logo, or give the dark grey/light grey screen that has a cirle with a line though it.
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Sounds like it worked as far as updating the KEXTs/kernel on the boot CD, but they weren't updated on the installed system for some reason. No idea why. Does XPostFacto have a mailing list? If so, that's probably your best bet.
 
Dgatwood.... I think you missed my point. :mad:

This is what you said....
Uhh... no, Apple still shipped G3 systems until about a year ago.... It most certainly is not an unsupported CPU.... I'm not sure why XPostFacto isn't working on a G3-upgraded 9600, but it isn't the processor....
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This is what I said....
Check out this link. OSX hardware specs.... OSX supports G3 - G5 processors. It doesn't support processor upgrade cards. I've found that some 3rd party hardware works with some versions of OSX and not others.

The Digi001 only works with version 10.34...... my Adaptec SCSI card is not supported at all.
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Here is a link with information on your XPOSTfacto....
link

It states "Apple has chosen to limit the machines which are supported by Mac OS X, but XPostFacto can help get Mac OS X working on some older machines."



Xpostfacto is proof that it might be a problem with his installation. Unless he uses the XPF utility then he may have some type of hardware communication problems.
 
Even if you can install OSX on the machine, you won't get too far. 338megs or RAM is going to make you crawl. PLus the 4G HD is rather small, doubt if you can do much. OSX needs alittle room for virtual space, plus the bare minimum OS is about 1.5Gigs. You can barely add anything to it.

T
 
It uses 1.5gb if you install all the extra languages and localized files (which I opted not to install).

Last night I was successful in installing OS X, turns out the system didn't like 2 8mb ram cards.

Other than having slow video cards (which are awaiting Radeon 7000 replacements from Ebay), OS X runs fine, granted I haven't installed all of my audio programs.

If I get ambitious tonight, I'll install cubase and some other stuff and post back here with the results.

Jason
 
JoeNovice said:
Dgatwood.... I think you missed my point. :mad:
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I was replying to a different message.... I didn't see that the second post was posted by the same person....
 
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