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RockinRobert
New member
Should have asked women 
A woman would tell you...it ain't what you got, it's how you use it. Lesson learned.
A woman would tell you...it ain't what you got, it's how you use it. Lesson learned.
dobro
Well-known member
Yeah, but I think the lesson you learned isn't the lesson to be learned here. I don't think it's how he used the Shure, I think it's the fact that used in exactly the same way as the AT, it sounded even better than the AT. The only thing that would invalidate the a/b he did would be if you moved the AT around to some other position and got a way better sound that way.
So, in fact I think the lesson is: it isn't how you use it, it's what you've got.
I don't think it's how he used the Shure, I think it's the fact that used in exactly the same way as the AT, it sounded even better than the AT. The only thing that would invalidate the a/b he did would be if you moved the AT around to some other position and got a way better sound that way. So, in fact I think the lesson is: it isn't how you use it, it's what you've got.
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Sound Cracker
New member
dobro, the two mics were not used in the same manner by any means. John could have reversed the positioning of those mics and got quite different results. He could have mic'ed the piano with both mics from the same position and got very different results.
My comments earlier also should be considered. The AT could have sounded much better in another position.
Truely it is not what you have, it is how you use it. Play around with positioning two of your own microphones and you will see. That I believe is what John also said earlier was his point.
Good Day!
My comments earlier also should be considered. The AT could have sounded much better in another position.
Truely it is not what you have, it is how you use it. Play around with positioning two of your own microphones and you will see. That I believe is what John also said earlier was his point.
Good Day!
dobro
Well-known member
Well, you're probably right, but I couldn't tell from John's description of mic placement exactly how he had them arranged. They were 8" over the hammers and 10" apart, but were they pointed straight down, were they pointed at the same string, were they pointed apart (I don't think so - one would have had way more bottom end, right?), were they lined up along the hammers, or along one string?
And the lesson I learned was that a Shure SM58 sounds better on a piano that an AT4050. But now you've got me thinking, and asking questions. So lets ask John, since he's the only one here who knows.
John - care to elaborate on how you set the mics up exactly, and what lesson do you draw from all this? And allow me to return to a question I had before - could you have got a significantly better sound from the 4050 if you'd positioned it differently?
And the lesson I learned was that a Shure SM58 sounds better on a piano that an AT4050. But now you've got me thinking, and asking questions. So lets ask John, since he's the only one here who knows.
John - care to elaborate on how you set the mics up exactly, and what lesson do you draw from all this? And allow me to return to a question I had before - could you have got a significantly better sound from the 4050 if you'd positioned it differently?
John Sayers
Solar Power!!
Sorry I'm late in getting back to you Dobro - Had a puter getting stubborn so I took it in and had a new 866 chip and new video driver put in. So now I'm ccokin!!
Look - I set up the mics as stated. - about 10" apart and both diaphragms pointing vertically down. They were recorded through a DA7 24 bit 48Khz and recorded into Nuendo with one panned left the other right. I then found the nuendo wave file and openned it into wavelab where I editied the section out that I used. I was looking for a section that had low strings as well as high strings.
I then saved the filew as a 320 kbps MP3 file. That's it.
Cheers
john
Look - I set up the mics as stated. - about 10" apart and both diaphragms pointing vertically down. They were recorded through a DA7 24 bit 48Khz and recorded into Nuendo with one panned left the other right. I then found the nuendo wave file and openned it into wavelab where I editied the section out that I used. I was looking for a section that had low strings as well as high strings.
I then saved the filew as a 320 kbps MP3 file. That's it.
Cheers
john