ok. this is asked a lot... it's about drums.

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Probably what i would do in your situation. is spend another 50-100 bucks on the nady drum mic package. Its not the best but it will give you more mics to work with, and a decent kick drum mic. Put a 57 on the snare, and all three toms. or you could also put the 2 nady tom/snare mics on the toms if you buy that package, and use the 2 extra 57's as a stereo overhead (i think they would work alright, though i havnt tested). Then put the nady kick mic in the kick drum. There are probably alot of ways to do this with 4 57/58s. if you dont like the sound of the nadys on the toms, use the 57's on the toms and use the nady's as overheads. you will have to do alot of experimenting with mic placement however. The nady kick mic is pretty decent for the money. If you can however find a decent condenser or two for the overhead i suggests using those. When i record drums most of the thickness of the drums comes from my overhead (AT4033).

If you dont wonna spend any more money and can only use what you got. Use the 57 on snare, 1 57 on overhead, 1 above both the high toms, and on in the kick. or try the good old triangler micing. one in kick drum, one on each high tom (then in your situation one on the snare).

Really what you have to do is experient with the mic placements. Ive heard of pros getting perfect drum sounds with only 1 condenser mic put in the perfect spot.
 
Audio Technica kick mic.

The Audio Technica kick mic is the ATM25, its cheap and good.. check her out.
 
hi,

picked up a really (and i mean really ) old electret condeser mic from sony the ECM 220. anyone know anything about that? it's got a din plug so it is old...

guhlenn
 
I have a couple cents to throw in if you haven't already picked up some more mics.

I have a Sennheiser tom mic package that has just three little mics with rim mounts. I think they're e402's or something like that (hell I don't know). I like 'em, especially for how cheap they were, but I'm not too picky about toms.

If you're going to close-mic the kick and snare I'd close mic everything. When I've done close-mics on kick and snare and left the overhead to pick up the toms, the toms sounded too distant and weak compared to the kickass in-your-face snare and kick. You may also run into that if you use seperate tom mics but try to catch more than two toms with a single mic. Of course some good mixing could minimize these issues, but I don't want to have to pull back my kick to even things out. All of this also depends on what kind of music you're recording. I need a big, thick drums for one of my bands because it's metal. With other types of music maybe you could get away with a subtler, good overall kit sound that you could get mostly from overheads.
 
Kick= essential.

no way am i going to pull back kick for toms. and i know , for our demo we did close mic everything... but the guy missed one tom mic so two toms had to be miced with 1 mic... i would rather sell my blood then do that again. the kick is gone in that recording, and our drummer's excellent in playing double bass parts. one of the reasons to start our own recording project.
We play metal too, well sort of metal anyway.
got any recordings ? i'd love to hear 'm. got like a site with mp3 or such?
here's mine: http://www.nonofus.com

thanks.

guhlenn:)
 
guhlenn said:
Kick= essential.

no way am i going to pull back kick for toms. and i know , for our demo we did close mic everything... but the guy missed one tom mic so two toms had to be miced with 1 mic... i would rather sell my blood then do that again. the kick is gone in that recording, and our drummer's excellent in playing double bass parts. one of the reasons to start our own recording project.
We play metal too, well sort of metal anyway.
got any recordings ? i'd love to hear 'm. got like a site with mp3 or such?
here's mine: http://www.nonofus.com

thanks.

guhlenn:)
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How big of a kit is your Drummer using?(How many drums?) and does it have two kick drums?


Tim
 
uhmm.... i'm a guitar player so this is hard...

piccolo snare
4 toms
2 kicks (although he does have a double kick pedal)
some crap which he doesn't normally use...
and the cymbals (are they called that way in english, cuz i wouldnt't know)

think i got it all...

greetz guhlenn
 
guhlenn said:
uhmm.... i'm a guitar player so this is hard...

piccolo snare
4 toms
2 kicks (although he does have a double kick pedal)
some crap which he doesn't normally use...
and the cymbals (are they called that way in english, cuz i wouldnt't know)

think i got it all...

greetz guhlenn
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What do you guys plan to record with? (what kind of gear?)
And does he use the two Kicks or the double pedal?
If He uses the double Pedal, I would say order the Nady Mic set...It's $150 US from Musician's Friend, it's 4 tom mics, and a kick mic. Then you could put an SM-57 on the Snare.

Tim
 
and that would sound decent?

he wuld like to use the two kicks but hasn't got money for 2 kick mic's sooo...
but thanks for that tip i'kll definately tell him.

and what we're gonna record with isn't bought yet so my options are open. but i guess it's gonna be either a digital mixer like the yamaha promix or the preamp-24/96 soundcard (8 i/o) way. i'm starting to like the digital mixer route more cuz of the greater convenience and less gear = better sound idea. (and the yamaha has 16 analog ins)

what would you do?

greetz guhlenn
 
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