ok i have asked this before but i still dont understand...

[LiquidBronze]

i am done all my tracks for my EP
but...
i still have the problem of this damn sound in words such as
shifting, change

the SH and CH form a high pitch sound that is unpleasent

i have no idea how to get rid of them
i used a compressor when recording...
ratio around 5:1
i tried using some effects in waves
such as the gate, deEsser, comp, etc...
these were all suggested to me

nothing seems to work
or if it does the main volume of the recording is lowered which i dont want to happen

does anyone know anyhting else i can do??
my chain
CAD E-100 mic --> art tube amp ---> mixer and the compressor is in the insert on the same channel as the mic

thanks all
peace
LB

 

[chessrock]

i tried using some effects in waves
such as the gate, deEsser, comp, etc...

You might want to give that de-esser another try.

 

[LiquidBronze]

...

ok...
well anyone know of a free deEsser that i can try
i just want something else i can compare it to

thanks

 

[chessrock]

Re: ...

well anyone know of a free deEsser that i can try

Yea, don't sing "s" and "ch" so loud.

Or you could highlight each instance of them (using whatever editor you're using), and eq the high frequencies down several decibles on them.

 

[littledog]

Any chance you can rerecord some of the offending vocals, and try a different mic, a different preamp, and NO compression?

 

[Beathoven]

Did you think about using a pop filter???

You can make one fairly easily by making a circle with a clothe hanger and putting a pantyhose over it...

Peace,
Beathoven

 

[rambo]

First check..... does it sounds ok if you bypass the compressor?
If you still have problems...... check you are running unity gain through console?

rgds

 

[Light]

If you have a EQ and a compressor, you can make a deesser. You set up the EQ to pass only the problamatic frequencies. Make it sound as bad as you possibly can. You then run the output of the EQ into the sidechain of the compressor. Set the compressor to only turn on durring the fricitives (the SH, CH, Sss, and other such sounds). Set the thershold, first, then play with ratio's until it sounds good. Put the unEQed signal through the main input of the compressor.

Why buy an expensive piece of gear that only does one thing when you can do the same thing with stuff you already own? It's called multi tasking. I mean, hey, what did you think a deesser does, anyway?
Light
"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[rambo]

Well...a d-esser is only limiting the frequencies over the selected crosspoint, it will leave the other freq uncompressed.
By doing it this way you will take down the level of of the whole songtrack every time the sidechain is triggerd....right?
So it will be a "compressor riding on hi ends" ... not a unit limiting only the hi end....

rgds

 

[Light]

You have to do it only to the vocal track. If the song is already mixed, then you would need a multi-band compressor. Most deessers do NOT reduce the level of only the high frequencies. Perhaps they should, but they do not. At least not the ones I have seen. If you can not remix, you could try and find a multi-band compressor, but they are preaty complex bits of electronics. They are quite expensive.

Light
"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[rambo]

Isn't that just what a d-esser is supposed to do, to reduce the energy of the hi end.......otherwise it's just a limiter...

When your eq'ed sidechain signal trigger the limiter...it will lower the level of the whole vocal track.....

Now if you use a multiband limiter you will get a d-esser effect by doing it your way.... so in that sense a multibandlimiter can be used a a d-esser.

rgds