OK Call Me A Dummy

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Even though I've had some experience with analog recording, I'm new to digital. I have just instaled Cakewalk Music Creator 2003 and was wondering if anyone would share a few tips for getting it going. I'd like to be able to import sounds from my MIDI keyboard as well as add guitar and vocal tracks. I'll be useing a SB live sound card for my MIDI and Line in inputs. Being new to digital I would appreciate any suggestions, hints or ideas on getting the most from Cakewalk. Thanks, Dani
 
OK you're a dummy

Just kidding...

Wow, that's a big open-ended question. There is a good book by Scott Garrigus called SONAR Power, but I don't really know how different Cakewalk Music Creator might be from SONAR so there is some potential for confusion... There are also some tutorials out there by Craig Anderton -- same caveats though.

One thing you said that has a certain sound about it, so excuse me if I'm inferring wrongly, but I detect that you might have a bit of confusion about what MIDI is. You said, "I'd like to be able to import sounds from my MIDI keyboard." You can't import the sounds. You can either record MIDI data from it and thereby trigger its sounds, or trigger sounds from other MIDI synths, or you can record its audio output to an audio track as if it were any other line-level signal.
 
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... and you could look under "Getting started" in the Help file. :)
 
OK I"m a dummy! And I don't allways use the right termonology or get all the spelling right either, I'm just an old dumb country boy who is trying to catch up on some of this puter-tech stuff.
I ment to say I want to use my keyboard's MIDI lines to record some basic tracks, then use the line in for other instruments and vocals. The "getting started" and "tutorials" pretty well explained what I needed to know to get the system working. I was hoping someone could let me know if there are any problems that I should expect or any "tricks" I can use to avoid some confusion, the simpler things are the better I like them. Also my mixer has stereo outputs so should I record on two tracks at a time? I'm not really a dummy, I'mjust new to this and don't know what I'm doing yet. Thanks, Dani
 
OK so you're not really a dummy

I was hoping someone could let me know if there are any problems that I should expect or any "tricks" I can use to avoid some confusion...
I can't really think of any "problems" you should expect other than the usual mismatch between your intuitive expectations and how the software manufacturer implemented their interface. Those are somewhat unpredictable and depend a lot on prior experience with other software packages and with knowledge in the subject (recording, that is). From three years on this board and observations of what seems to hang people up the most, I would suggest the following list of areas that cause some head-scratching:

(1) Basics of MIDI: what MIDI actually is and how it's used, where the sounds come from, what MIDI channels are, why the MIDI tracks need to be recorded to an audio track before you can include them in a stereo mix, etc..

(2) Audio inputs: line and mic inputs on soundcards, how to enable or disable piping some of what's passing through the soundcard to its audio recording input, how to set decent levels.

(3) The stereo issue, which you specifically asked about, and I'll talk more about in a second.

Also my mixer has stereo outputs so should I record on two tracks at a time?

In my mind, the only reasons for recording stereo tracks are (1) you are attempting to capture the vibe of a real place -- a great room or hall that has a fantastic natural reverberance; or (2) you have already put the mixing effort into getting, say, the MIDI tracks mixed the way you want, so when you render them to audio a single stereo track will suffice. I would even add that this second reason is bogus because it involves making mix decisions earlier than normal, and once you've recorded it to audio this way you're stuck with your premix, unless you want to redo it, in which case you would have better off all along recording each MIDI part to a mono track and mixing it like any of the other audio tracks...

The recording application is where you capture the stuff you want to record, part by part, and either mix it there on the computer, or send all the multiple tracks out to an external mixer for mixing. You want to be able to readily place any of the recorded parts wherever you want to in the stereo image. If the recorded parts are already in stereo, it it very difficult to pan them, because each part is already panned, and the effect of panning two tracks with different amounts of signal is somewhat complex and unpredictable. It is infinitely simpler to record mono tracks and then adjust their leftness and rightness by panning them in the stereo field.
 
Thanks AlChuck, I was thinking along the lines you suggested and it makes me feel a lot better to know I might be on the right track for a change. I've still got a lot to learn so look for me to be posting with more questions. Thanks again, Dani
 
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