Ns10s taking over the world

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aah...ya got me there... you can say more with less notes in a solo sometimes...eh?

(nice slogan in the avatar, btw:) )
 
mixmkr said:


Probably more popular than the tissue covered NS10's also..

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I Sort of have the same religion as alot of engineers that use the NS10's... Only Pussies would put tissue over a speaker!......

I have never done this, and I laugh whenever im reading a mag and they show a studio shot that displays this.
 
I have a documentary DVD of Paul Simon recording Graceland -- sure enough, in the control room -- NS-10s - tweeters covered with tissue paper!

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Bruce
 
The one thing Ive noticed about the guys here that put down the NS10s, thier mixes dont sound good on them either. Sorry but its almost like I could tell you arent using them.

It could almost make me more critical of some of us, so I tend to use headphones when listening to some of you. Dont feel bad though, Even most of my older CDs suffer from the NS10s lack of forgiveness.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
The one thing Ive noticed about the guys here that put down the NS10s, thier mixes dont sound good on them either. Sorry but its almost like I could tell you arent using them.

It could almost make me more critical of some of us, so I tend to use headphones when listening to some of you. Dont feel bad though, Even most of my older CDs suffer from the NS10s lack of forgiveness.
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Shit! I've been exposed! I thought I had bought up all those copies of those CDs!:( :( :( :eek: ;)

That's ok. Revenge will be mine! In a few years there won't be any more NS-10's, which I guess means everybody's mixes will sound just as crappy as mine!!!:p :p :p
 
darrin_h2000 said:
The one thing Ive noticed about the guys here that put down the NS10s, thier mixes dont sound good on them either. Sorry but its almost like I could tell you arent using them.

It could almost make me more critical of some of us, so I tend to use headphones when listening to some of you. Dont feel bad though, Even most of my older CDs suffer from the NS10s lack of forgiveness.
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I agree. When it sounds good on other speakers, there are faults that are immediately noticeable on ns10ms
 
What is this 'tissue over the tweeter' thing? I've never heard of that one.
 
Tissue

TexRoadkill said:
What is this 'tissue over the tweeter' thing? ...
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It's tissue over the tweeter.

Some people do that. With NS10s. Put a piece of tissue over the tweeter. There was even a story in some magazine where they compared and rated different brands of tissue (if I remember correctly, the golden-eared reviewers perceived differences in brands, and even in different colors of the same brand ... very impressive).
 
Actually I had somehow deduced what tissue over the tweeter was I was more curious why. I guess they believed the highs were a little too exaggerated?
 
You cant beat Kleenex brand, They have been keeping the Boogers off of my tweeters.
 
Yes

TexRoadkill said:
Actually I had somehow deduced what tissue over the tweeter was I was more curious why. I guess they believed the highs were a little too exaggerated?
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I think that's the prevailing theory. Other possibilities:

- it creates a phase shift that corrects for inherent anomolies in the speaker design

- multi-path band-interference filtered lisajou arbiters

- that's what Bob Clearmountain does

- that's what somebody who did it because Bob Clearmountain did does
 
I've also heard, putting them tweeter end down, with three pennies, two in front and one in back, underneath it, makes a considerable difference as well. I don't know if that guy knew what he was talking about, but that's what I heard.
 
I heard that if you did that the bass wouldnt transfer to the desk and get over emphisied. But that works for any monitor.

Mine are surrounded by neopreen installed flush into my wall over the desk, so I dont even have problems with bass in the room.
 
I was talking to this engineer friend of mine and the NS10's were mentioned. The story she heard is that some marketing genius at Yamaha decided to give a bunch of them to A&R guys at different labels. It then made it neccessary for mixes to sound good on NS10's if you wanted the label to like your mixes.

I guess that would explain why <$400 monitors became an industry standard. I have no idea if that is true or not but it is an interesting story.
 
When I bought my NS-10m's years ago, an engineer friend told me to be sure and buy a box of kleenex with them.

So I called Yamaha tech support, and I was told that the original models had harsh tweeters that benefitted from the tissue paper treatment, but that the newer models were redesigned and the problem was corrected.

I think the older models were just NS-10's, while the newer ones were NS-10m's, but i could be wrong. harvey would probably know.
 
Ya know, I had never thought I had seen those before today, but I guess I had, and I never realized it. For some reason I thought they were from JBL, and I always see these everywhere. Wierd man
 
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