Now they've done it.....

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Hrm, I suppose I'll have to maybe consider buying an LP now....
 
In the eyes of the beholder... Floyd meets Lester...I like it! Just one more thing and it would be perfect...two more frets :-)
 
Oh yeah, I'd buy one. I love the contours on the back of the body as well.
 
"Adding a Floyd Rose to a Les Paul in the past was always a major headache, and could seriously damage the stability of the instrument if not done right." -- not to mention the serious beating that *you* would get when someone saw you with it.

Actually, seeing this is bringing up repressed trauma - when I was 17, I absolutely had to have a floyd rose type tremolo, and I was playing a drop dead gorgeous cherry sunburst lp custom, and I knew what a travesty it would be to put a trem on it, but I couldn't afford to buy a second guitar so I.... so I.... I... *traded* it for an Ibanez RG-550. :( - I've still got the Ibanez :)
 
antichef said:
"Adding a Floyd Rose to a Les Paul in the past was always a major headache, and could seriously damage the stability of the instrument if not done right." -- not to mention the serious beating that *you* would get when someone saw you with it.

Actually, seeing this is bringing up repressed trauma - when I was 17, I absolutely had to have a floyd rose type tremolo, and I was playing a drop dead gorgeous cherry sunburst lp custom, and I knew what a travesty it would be to put a trem on it, but I couldn't afford to buy a second guitar so I.... so I.... I... *traded* it for an Ibanez RG-550. :( - I've still got the Ibanez :)
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LMAO!!!! :D
 
Why would anyone carry 10lbs slab of mahogany in their necks, if the strings are separated from it with springs, nulling any effect of the wood to tone,sustain or any advantages of rigid, heavy body with a glued neck??:confused:
 
Jouni said:
Why would anyone carry 10lbs slab of mahogany in their necks, if the strings are separated from it with springs, nulling any effect of the wood to tone,sustain or any advantages of rigid, heavy body with a glued neck??:confused:
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The strings aren't separated from the guitar by springs. It may be called a "floating trem" but it really doesn't float in mid air. (That would be magical, huh?) The strings go into the the bridge, and the bridge pivots (with full contact) on two posts that are set in the wood of the body.

Not an awful lot different than the strings going into a tailpiece which is mounted by two posts that are set in the body.

I've got trem guitars that resonate and sustain just as well as my fixed bridge guitars...
 
Yes..I've seen the FR bridge.
My simple thoughtpattern goes like this:
Pivoting between strings and springs leaning on two metalposts, it can't possibly resonate as much in to the body, as with a solid construction because something goes through, to the springs, they tremble, right??
I mean, windmill-charging an all-strings barre-chord inevitably makes the FR sag, not much, but some, and leaves it trembling with strings a bit, again not much, but some. Ergo, the movements of the bridge and springs loose energy between the strings and wood. Thus reducing the effect of the used wood or type of construction in the guitar?
OK.. the sustain.. I think FR mounted in concrete could resonate and sustain for hours due to the springs.:D This has always been a can of worms, and I'm not trying to argue, I just think physics are physics. Nevertheless, my ears prolly couldn't tell the difference.:o
 
Just wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. (Shakes head in disbelief... or is it disgust?)

In this day, when you can buy a no-drill/no perm. mod Bigsby, just wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. (Shakes head in disbelief...)
 
If you thought LP necks were fragile before, a locking nut makes it worse.
 
Regardless of whether or not you like the Floyd Rose (I don't care for it, but, whatever), I certainly agree with the idea of updating the neck/body joint. I've always thought it was utterly ridiculous that you're not able to reach the high frets on a Les Paul without bringing your thumb under the neck. The first time I played one, I remember thinking "what the hell?" (Obviously, I was a Strat player first.)
 
Jouni, I played with a guitarist years back (excellent musician) who routed his LP Standard for a Floyd Rose and installed a locking nut, just as on the Axxess. It was a sweet guitar - great tone and sustain. I couldn't tell that he lost anything in the way of tone and his tuning was rock solid.

Anyway, I think a FR-equipped LP is long overdue and I applaud it.
 
I'm being outnumbered and clearly out-luthiered here.:D
As I said, my ears couldn't tell the difference one way or the other, and my objectivness has been clouded by years of friends with cheap Jacksons with FR copies resulting to bad sounds and perpetual tuning.:o

With all the other mods, cutting of wood here and there and using weight-relieving on the rest, it kinda is a step towards a different beast alltogether anyways.

"final set-up and fret dressing by the computer-controlled PLEK System."
From a custom-shop, I thought that to be hands-on stuff, but it seems not..
 
Jouni said:
With all the other mods, cutting of wood here and there and using weight-relieving on the rest, it kinda is a step towards a different beast alltogether anyways.
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I think you're right about that.
 
Jouni said:
With all the other mods, cutting of wood here and there and using weight-relieving on the rest, it kinda is a step towards a different beast alltogether anyways.
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Who knows what kind of chambering or weight relief - if any - they are using in the Axxess aside from the vibrato cavity? I guess someone will have to buy one and X-ray it for us. :)

I own a chambered LP and two non-weight-relieved LPs (one Special, one R4). I'll go out on a limb and say that IMO the chambering has less effect on the overall tone (from one LP to another LP) than do factors sucha as pickups, the basic construction (bolt vs set neck; scale length) and wood material differences between Gibson LPs and other manufacturer's models. So I don't think the cavity for the Floyd is going to make a huge difference, although I can't imagine that the vibrato system itself wouldn't play a factor.

Anyway, as I said earlier, the Floyd-equipped LP that I have seen and heard up close and personal (and played a few times) sounded just right, and could do divebombs from hell. :D
 
Thats just wrong man.....why man WHY!!!...well to me it looks ugly and since i have no real need for a floyd rose i wouldn't bother....but to each their own. I still however think it really destroys the elegance of an LP. I think i hear my LP crying over this.
 
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