New track of terror from The Boogiemen

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pink...certainly...not what I was really expecting. The beginning was pretty cool, the the guitars came in and took back to the 70's....ala Uriah Heep with new synthesizers. I like it all fairly much, but the guitars don't sit well with me at all and trash the whole mix, with the reverb, grating sound, tinny EQ, etc. I dig the synth stuff.
 
Hey Pinky,

The tune kept my attention and I let it take me in. I found myself waiting for something to happen the whole time. That "something" never did yet, I I didn't feel cheated. I felt like I dug the song. So, logic would dictate that I did.....duhh...:D

I thought the lead distortion git could come up in the intro even though this is not a "showcase this track then that track" kinda song.

The little vocal blurb "Just when you thought...." works fine but, I thought the delivery was kinda banal. Maybe give it more of a psychotic vocal inflection............

Then the git is in there but maybe the tone is wrong. Less distortion? Maybe a different set of git effects alltogether.

That dirty ending doesn't work with the song at all. Kills any mood that built up while listening.

Hope my aural observations helped. Sorry I can't give more technically sound info.

Cool tune in the works. Hope it turns out as you desire.

Peace,

Theron.
 
Pinky,

This thread really caught my attention, as we have a band in the Milwaukee area called 'The Boogiemen' too. They're a pretty big attraction in this area, and do mostly disco type stuff. Here's their homepage. http://www.boogiemen.com/

Anyway, to comment on your song 'Stars'...It's got a good foundation and hook to it, but it does need to build to something more.

The recording seems a bit mushy sounding to me. Too much verb in general, and the bottom end is undefined (all rumble, no distinctness to it).

The vocal thing was a bit too loud, and almost scared me. ;) (Maybe that's what you were going for)

Keep working the song, clean up the recording a bit, and you'll be set! :cool:
 
Cool Tune!

Good mix of synth's and guitars I thought,mabey just a little cleaner on the gits.
The only thing I didn't think fit was the snare and rim shot sound,a little to loud.IMHO

Good groove,really rocks!

Best to you,
Pete
 
I had much the same feeling as mixmkr. The song has a good feel to it. But the guitars have a gratiness to them that hurts the song overall.

If they had a warmer tone to them, it would improve things considerably.

Musically... A four minute instrumental makes it a challenge to keep up listener interest. I thought things got just a little repetitive. You changed a few things up (different lead parts, drums drop out then come back, a spoken line, etc.), but in my view not quite enough to keep it lively. Some sections got a little long. Perhaps add different instruments and parts.
 
TripleM said:
But the guitars have a gratiness to them that hurts the song overall.
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That's the first thing I tried attacking yesterday, should have heard them before :p .

So I'm going to reexamine the whole sound, the problems people pointed out here were the exact same things I don't like about the mix. I know how to get the guitars up (create a duplicate track re-EQ'd to bring up the lows and mids, add some chorus to warm-it-up). What I'm still uncertain about, another issue I addressed yesterday when laying down the bass line, is how to get it "cleaner"/more defined. That will be a challenge as I don't own a bass, it was an acoustic guitar with a line-in from the pickup ;). I have the original track, maybe I can start all over and un-muddy it after dropping the pitch...

As for structure and payoff, I have a classical part planned that may or may not actually work (SF Acid is tough to compose symphony :D )... was thinking of layering acoustic parts instead.
 
I have a tendency to create overly harsh guitar parts myself. Despite being told otherwise, I've tried in the past to correct it via EQing. It doesn't work well - to put it mildly. Sometimes I just have to find out the hard way. :)

I'm trying to get better at tracking them correctly in the first place.
 
Okay, I've uploaded a better version. Think I have more definition and less rumble on the bass (I like/intend for some rumbling, but not the degree there was), I added some mids/lows to the rhythm guitar part but duplicating a track and dropping it an octave, set it right along side the other and it seems to fill the gaps nicely. I added some flange, what would a techno-ish tune be without a flanged part??

I have more to do, that's all I could get done in 2+ hours tonight. Plenty of msuic vacancy left in the 2:00-2:40 section, still haven't decided on strings or acoustic guitar...
 
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I never heard the first version but this doesn't grate on me so I guess it must be better. I think the guitars are too low in the mix though. I can't really hear them. The bass sounds fairly good right now and I like the groove very much thank you. Wait....I'm trancin' out.....too much acid in college. :D
 
Lt. Bob said:
Wait....I'm trancin' out.....too much acid in college. :D
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Me too :p

Thanks, I was thinking of bringing the guitars up a tad more (especially that octave-lowered guitar track), you just made my mind up for me :D
 
I thought the tone on the guits was better. But I'm still saying, "re-track them." They're still too "gratey." The synth parts are lower in this mix, no? I think those should be where they were in the first version. Especially in the intro.

The flanger definitely works. I believe it's against truth in labeling laws to call it techno without a flanger somewhere :D.

The bass line is sounding real nice through the passage around 1:30.

Later Pinky.
 
TripleM said:
I thought the tone on the guits was better. But I'm still saying, "re-track them." They're still too "gratey." The synth parts are lower in this mix, no?
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There really aren't any synth parts, it's all guitar and some noise made in the original Acid tracks (that were included in the drum parts) and the one synth sample I ran 4 times in the beginning and a couple times at the end, otherwise, next to no synths...

Unfortunately, rerecording the guitars is not an option, it's not me playing :D (my co-conspirator Lew was in charge of guitars this time, I did the bass and some retinkering of the Acid loops a friend from Cali sent me). I love producing and playing, but I can't shred like Lew ;). he's been playing for like 35 years to my 10, and I have tendencies toward ambient and groove, he's more apt to lead work.
 
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