New song slightly remixed. Would appreciate feedback.

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One site member thinks the genre is World Music. Is there consensus on that?

Any feedback?

Thanks for listening people.
 

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Could you give a bit more information on your recording process? Vocals sound very robotic. Maybe I am not listening correctly.

It was way too bright for my ears, my impression, good energy, very dance worthy. It does sound like European pop music, early 90's and forward. Not sure what Europe is listening to today, but it has that artificial, just dance in the club and don't listen too close feel. With some taming of the highs, and more bottom (no energy down low) probably would work well in a DJ set.

Is this AI generated?
 
Deylight said:
One site member thinks the genre is World Music. Is there consensus on that?

Any feedback?

Thanks for listening people.
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It’s Pop music not World Music - and like @DM60 it sounds completely generated either by AI or snyths.
 
Not my thang but I’d get rid of the robot voice during the verses at least, and maybe leave them in the chorus.
 
Hey people thank you for the great feedback I really appreciate it.

Wow the reaction to the vocals surprises me, since she is a real singer and I manually tuned and then processed and tweaked those vocals for many hours. Other than her singing there is some real saxophone I played into my SSL2+, then I did the rest with Logic drums & synths. I also recorded me banging a fence and incorporated that hit into the snare. I think I prefer labeling it Europop to World Music 😃
The notes on the low end are super valuable, I got new headphones that I bought to get a worse, more “in the room” sound since my only other speakers are my car, but the headphones sound too good and also dampen the low end severely, I think I’m overcompensating.
People there’s no AI here, just an obsessive engineer who loves Erasure and Carly Rae Jepsen!
 
… and I wrote those lyrics because I’d been worrying about money…
 
Deylight said:
Hey people thank you for the great feedback I really appreciate it.

Wow the reaction to the vocals surprises me, since she is a real singer and I manually tuned and then processed and tweaked those vocals for many hours. Other than her singing there is some real saxophone I played into my SSL2+, then I did the rest with Logic drums & synths. I also recorded me banging a fence and incorporated that hit into the snare. I think I prefer labeling it Europop to World Music 😃
The notes on the low end are super valuable, I got new headphones that I bought to get a worse, more “in the room” sound since my only other speakers are my car, but the headphones sound too good and also dampen the low end severely, I think I’m overcompensating.
People there’s no AI here, just an obsessive engineer who loves Erasure and Carly Rae Jepsen!
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I would think that you maybe over correcting the vocals. Maybe lower the timing speed, reduce correction from 100% to 90? I think perfect vocals will always sound bad. IMO.

Now I know that is a real voice, get the computer out of it and that is a very good vocal.
 
I only read your first post and thought europop. absolutely not world music - to me that's music indigenous to a country or region in style and instrumentation.
 
Good energy. Some cool parts to the instruments.

Like few other people, I thought things were a little bright. In particular, the synths/snare/brass were very bright.

But then the vocal is missing quite a bit of top end. And so it lacks that clarity and sheen that the top end provides. It sounds like the singer is on the other side of a door.

So to me, you have the top end in the wrong place - you have it with the instruments and not with the vocal. I would think that should be easy to address.

And yeah even there isn't any AI, it also sounded to me like AI vocals sound these days.
 
Thanks for the comments rob and TripleM. TripleM that's a very useful observation, and as you say very addressable. Thanks!
 
I've found that while apparently I can de-humanize a vocal with skill, I have no idea how to humanize one. I just can't bring myself to de-tune her! I think this is just part of my sound, as Neil Young remarks in that doc when a producer calls him on being flat :)
 
Catchy tune. Lots has been addressed in this thread already, but thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

I also thought it sounded very 'AI'. I guess we are all a little paranoid / suspicious these days, and it is hard to tell what is what anymore.

I didn't find it overly bright. I do find it overly loud, however. 7 LUFS is a bit on the loud side, and this might be contributing to the brightness / harshness. It certainly isn't helping the dynamics. Even dropping it to 8 or 9 LUFS would help it out so it isn't as squashed / one dimensional.

Agree with others here about the vocal sound. The pitch is over-corrected, and I'm not sure what processing you have going on, but they are very muffled sounding. Almost like a De-Esser dialed up to max.

Aside from that, I do think it's a good mix. You have a some interesting stereo imaging going on, the brass sounds are realistic sounding. Timing and general performance are great. It has lots of potential with some tweaking.

EL
 
Eric, thanks for listening! I feel like I should be able to make it both pleasing and at a LUFS of 6, because my reference track is Houdini by Dua Lipa which is ridiculously loud but also dynamic and smooth like butter. I'm trying to learn the methods to do that. However, I think I lowered this revised version by a LUF or 2. I used the Logic Console EQ, which I've never used before so that was great, to boost the bass and control the highs per comments. Thanks for noticing my stereo field, I only started wrestling with that in a very intentional way a couple weeks ago, I appreciate you shouting it out.

Is this a better mix? Everyone I really appreciate all the help, it's been just what I needed. I lost any objectivity on this track months ago :)
 

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This is the hard part when you are getting deeper into this. I like the mix better, now with some bass back in, you can bring up the highs. Might be compression that is doing it. But a bit more air and I think your mix is getting dialed in.
 
Thanks for the encouragement DM60, I will try to put some targeted highs back in.
 
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Thanks for the encouragement DM60, I will try to put some targeted highs back in.
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Well, my opinion doesn't really mean anything, it is simply feedback, your opinion does matter. It is your mix. If you want it dark, you keep it that way.

Hopefully, you take the feedback that way. Ask 10 people on this board, "how does this sound", you will get 11 answers. :)
 
My ears are bleeding. Clicking on files here doesn't give me easy access to a volume knob - but my God I needed it - it blasted out here made me actually jump. If your audience have to reach for the volume knob to make your track the same as the last one they listened to, you over cooked it. Any online services like spotify, apple music etc would smash the level instantly their system analysed it. way, way, way too loud.
 
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My ears are bleeding. Clicking on files here doesn't give me easy access to a volume knob - but my God I needed it - it blasted out here made me actually jump. If your audience have to reach for the volume knob to make your track the same as the last one they listened to, you over cooked it. Any online services like spotify, apple music etc would smash the level instantly their system analysed it. way, way, way too loud.
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Huh, I did have to turn it down, but it was possible.
 
I think mix #2 is an improvement in one way. The excessive high end in the instruments is reduced.

But I think the vocal is possibly even more muffled than in mix #1.

And yeah it's hit very hard with a limiter. It sounds like almost everything in the mix is competing to be front and center. And the limiter is making that problem worse.

I think you've captured the genre pretty well. A few more turns of the crank and you might have a decent mix.
 
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