new mr-8user with loads of questionshey im totally new to this home recording thing

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another newby question

ok i know this is not a mr-8 question but it kinda is im wanting to record on my mr-8 and then directly send it to my computer so that i can mix it and stuf on n-track . do i have to send it to track 7/8 first or can i just send it say from track one ? i dont really understand the manual. remember im completely new at this. feel free to talk to me like im a third grader .
 
scourge,
The wave manager gives you the option to transfer any track or tracks you want, so you don't have to bounce to 7/8. I don't think you'll find that in the manual.


bd
 
hey thanx bd

man i really apriciate the good help im getting here like i said im new at this but im really enjoying it i loved recording with the band i used to play with but the sound engineer got to do the fun stuff seemed to me. so now its my chance to play. another quick question. when you record something on the mr-8 do you do it dry and then do all your eqing and effects on the n-tracker. or do you sometimes add effects to what ever it is your recording before you send it or even before it gets to your mr-8. just looking for some tips here. thanx bryan
 
When you transfer the tracks via wave manager to your pc they will be dry even if you had the effects on when recording. Effects are not added until you mixdown to 5/6 or 7/8. (it may just be 7/8, not totally sure about 5/6?)
 
Bryan,
What Gospel said is, well...."Gospel"........sorry, I couldn't resist! There are some other approaches here though. For guitar, I use a V-Amp. It has two outputs, one dry and the other wet. Those outputs are run into a mixer where I can control what's recorded. I usually decide on a specific sound I want before I record and once I get it, that's pretty much what I record. Doing the setup that way though gives me the option to record both wet and dry seperatly, and if I decide during the mix that I didn't get what I wanted, I still have those two trax to play with in n-Track. Everything else I record dry and flat (EQ). I try not to go crazy with the FX, but the plug-ins available for n-Track are unbelievable. I generally only use a touch of reverb on the vox, maybe some compression and EQ wherever needed. I'm a simple man.


bd
 
bdbdbuck said:
scourge,
The wave manager gives you the option to transfer any track or tracks you want, so you don't have to bounce to 7/8. I don't think you'll find that in the manual.


bd
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I checked the manual on this, and it says (on page 88) " a mono wave file, or undo file, cannot be exported to a personal computer". Is this not true? And what is "wave manager"?
 
software

I have just recently started using N-track, but I just wanted to add that there are gobs of free plug-ins/effects, and somewhere within this maze of information you can find the links also.



BTW, does anyone here play hard rock, metal, nu-metal, etc.???
 
scourge,
The problem with Fostex is they are their own worst enemy sometimes. The left hand doesn't seem to know what the right hand is doing half the time. The wave manager is available from the fostex site, and it enables you to directly export individual trax to the computer or from the computer to the MR8.

cellardweller,
In case you're interested, slackmaster 2000 has a ton of sites listed on his website for vst plug-ins. I'm available to play hard rock anytime. No death metal stuff......I'm an old man.


bd
 
thanx bd

hey i apriciate the info that really odd that they would do that.




and i to like metal, rock as long as the lyrics dont get to wierd
 
old man

hey bd just curious how old im 35 some would consider that oold to be into the harder music
 
I'm on the cusp of 49 (September). I used to do quite a bit of rockin back in the days. I took a 17 year "vacation", so I'm still gettin my chops back. I have one of my old tunes posted on my NWR site if you're interested. It's a collaboration that Gospel, Clifchamb and I put together on our MR8's.

MR8 Collaboration

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=2834&alid=-1

I love rock n roll!

bd
 
old as you feel,

I'm 32, and yes, I probaly listen to some of the "wierd" (lyrically speaking) bands.

Where should one look for a "Slackmaster2000"? I'll try the obvious in the mean time...
 
Cellardweller,
Slack hangs out in the n-Track forum a lot. Just hit profile at the bottom of any one of his posts and you'll find a link to his website. He's also putting together the homerec.comp CD, and he's put a lot of work into it. Clif, gospel and I have our collab project on that CD scheduled for August release.

bd
 
mixing on the computer

What is the advantage of loading the recording on the PC and mixing there? I just bought my VF 80 assuming the whole mix could be done there. Isn't it redundant to use a digital recorder with mixer, load it to a computer, and mix further?

Obvious newbie,

Rob
 
good tunes bd

hey man i just listento your mr-8 collaberation and i thaught it was good. good guitar playing i too am a guitarist, play a little bass as do most guitarists and a bit of drums. i also liked your song its only april. good job later bryan
 
Re: mixing on the computer

robjh22 said:
What is the advantage of loading the recording on the PC and mixing there? I just bought my VF 80 assuming the whole mix could be done there. Isn't it redundant to use a digital recorder with mixer, load it to a computer, and mix further?

Obvious newbie,

Rob
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Hi Rob -

The computer gives you a level of control not always possible on an integrated unit. For example, I had a case where one vocalist sang a whole song twice, singing a harmony part on the choruses. A second singer just sang on the choruses, doing another harmony. With n-Track I was able to automate the panning so the two tracks from singer #1 were panned hard left/right during verses, and then the one where she sang the main part was panned center on choruses. All of this was 'non destructive' - it happened automatically on playback and mix down, but didn't change the actual recorded tracks.

A simple example, but something probably not possible on many affordable recorders.

It also can be easier to edit, in general, with everything laid out on the computer screen.
 
Another thing about using the computer with the MR8 is capacity. I can put as many tracks as I want in n-Track and use my computer's memory to work on the mix. n-Track also gives me more visual aids especially for gain, volume envelopes and that kind of stuff. "It's more betterer".


bd
 
bdbdbuck said:
I can put as many tracks as I want in n-Track and use my computer's memory to work on the mix.

bd
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Another good point - even though some units (like the VF) have hard drives, a computer allows mixing of more than 8 tracks at once.
 
signal loss

And there's no signal/quality loss when go to the computer before making the final product?
 
Re: signal loss

robjh22 said:
And there's no signal/quality loss when go to the computer before making the final product?
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Depends on the transfer method. With the MR-8 everything can be copied to the computer at once, with no loss, by either using the USB port or an external card reader.

With the VF I believe you either have to record two tracks at a time to the computer through the s/pdif port, or copy them with the CD burner.

If you were to just record from the line out of the recorder into the line in of the computer sound card you would experience loss.

A mystery why they didn't put a USB port on the VF series...
 
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