New album first mix

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I'm working on the new album for my band (Fetla). We did it all ourselves, and we attempted to do some kind of "mastering" at the end as well. I would love to get some feedback on how it sounds, as we are trying to take it as seriously as possible.

There are 10 tracks, and you don't have to listen to em all, just pick one or two if you prefer. (But don't listen to just track 5 as it is radically different from the other tracks.)

1. Sweet Disaster
2. More Than Friends
3. Musical Chairs
4. In Sickness and In Health
5. 2 Good 2 B 4gotten
6. Oh Baby
7. Break Down
8. These Are The Days
9. In With The Rest Of Them
10. Run From The Banshees

Thanks everyone for your help!!
 
Nice.

I listened to number 1 "Sweet disaster" assuming one has to put their best foot forward and such...

really like it nice well spaced production i only have one opinion related comment..

The piano is recorded isn't it? i mean it was microphone recorded was it not? if it was the recording is really well done and i have nothing to say about the recording ... the only small apparent flaw i can see with it is that it is ever so slightly off time.

but one only notices because it is of such prominence in the sonic field.

if it was a midi track i would have assumed you would have just adjusted it in relation to the kik or snare, so i assume it is recorded making the task that much more difficult to fix.

maybe it's just me i'd like to hear other opinions, it wouldn't bother me if it was contrary to the rhythm in the verse but it's not it's a part of the rhythm section in the verse.

and i think the song is too good not to correct that.
 
Yeah the piano seems just a little out of time - since so much space was used up establishing the beat in the intro I think you're either brave in doing it deliberatly, like the slightly off feel or need to listen closely.
Good song - intro's too long - it's very similar to an 80's Australian track called Bop Girl (the intro not song).
 
rayc said:
Yeah the piano seems just a little out of time - since so much space was used up establishing the beat in the intro I think you're either brave in doing it deliberatly, like the slightly off feel or need to listen closely.
Good song - intro's too long - it's very similar to an 80's Australian track called Bop Girl (the intro not song).
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Yeah, I went back and I edited the piano to make some of the important hits in time, and it worked out pretty well. Don't have time to upload the fixed track yet.
 
OK, I just posted the edited version of the first song to make the piano rhythm work a little better. I think it sounds more listenable now.

Sweet Disaster - Edited

Did people listen to any of the other songs? I'm interested to hear how they compare to each other.
 
sweet disaster

i personally hear a #1 in that song...but the piano needs something. like a bass note riff instead of the chords the whole time, ??? something to pull in and "sharpen up" timing even a little more...up the tempo of the piano or something??? interesting.

the guitar has the timing, the piano is riding in the pocket, when it needs to be exactly on the spot.

the vocals are great, the lyrics are cool.....

i'd add a bass piano riff with the quiet part too, where there's the bass and clapping thing....low octave piano doing the same as the bass....
take that with a grain of salt...nothingness.

a pro producer would know just the right touch I'd bet. a George Martin or something...

great writing... the songs there, the groove is there, minor details..
 
COOLCAT said:
i personally hear a #1 in that song...but the piano needs something. like a bass note riff instead of the chords the whole time, ??? something to pull in and "sharpen up" timing even a little more...up the tempo of the piano or something??? interesting.

the guitar has the timing, the piano is riding in the pocket, when it needs to be exactly on the spot.

the vocals are great, the lyrics are cool.....

i'd add a bass piano riff with the quiet part too, where there's the bass and clapping thing....low octave piano doing the same as the bass....
take that with a grain of salt...nothingness.

a pro producer would know just the right touch I'd bet. a George Martin or something...

great writing... the songs there, the groove is there, minor details..
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Those are some great suggestions... unfortunately we don't have time to redo the arrangement, but I'll keep some of that in mind for when we play it live!
 
I listened to Break Down. It's got a Weezer/Ben Folds feel to it. Nice song and well sung. I'm listening with cheapo headphones so can't comment on the mix.

Good luck and have fun.
Cheers,
 
I listened to most of what you posted and i like it! There are a few things that could stand some attention but, i'm sure you know what they are already. Cool stuff.....i would buy this cd:cool:
 
the 2nd edit is an improvement imo.
the tune just really has so much potential its worth working the small details out..

interesting to see what a BabyFace or George Martin, Mutt Lange type producer would do, add & subtract? i still hear some rhythm thing, in the verse only between the guitar or the piano, they lose each other on a strum or something....but many won't notice and sometimes too much sterile perfection loses some vibe, so its a tough call. curious what others will recommend... the arrangement seems really good imo. but one never knows, like Martin took and flipped Cant Buy Me Love upside down and intro changed and it became another tune, I think that stuffs wild. arranging.

My teens and their friends liked sweet disaster too.
I heard one teen singing the tune 'this sweet disaster..." after only a few plays this morning. interesting.

infectious pop...common people music. summertime radio hit ready..
Billboard here you come...:D
 
thumbs up, I don't know if it's relevant but a slight description of genre would be helpful before I click on stuff, I was expecting, and bracing for something heavier and was pleasantly surprised. Great definition.
 
Yeah

yeah an improvment.....

I'll tell you something that an old drummer told me once, (great guy)

get 1 right, so what i'm saying here is with your piano there get that number 1 right on Ok....if 1 is on you can wander , but then back on 1 again.

everytime.

this song comes into it's own in the corus, myself i wouldn't be able to help changing the verse, but that's not to say i think you should, as we are different humans and i don't think like you.

number 1 on everytime. trust me. (squid, dough, fast and bulbus etc...)
 
this drummer

well actually he took my mic, for like 8 months and when i got it back i'm not sure if he swapped the innards(it was an Rode NTK) , but i didn't care, i never used it.

i think he thought i didn't care about it enough, so he like took it. lol.
 
Singing

this slightly out of time piano is killing me...............yeah ........ but if you guys think it's ok....... yeah ..... then ......you should ........leave it....... yeah........it seems to me ...to be all over all over town ....cool the corus nice sounds very snow patrol.........yeah..............oh the verse is back ...........it's killing me......
 
in piano beat rhythm songs its critical and noticeable for the timing to be dead on.

"ain't gonna write you a love song", on the top of radio now. piano/bass/guitar/vocal/drums.
"Cold As Ice" Foreginer. Piano- fast tempo beat.

however, at 50+ plays, I started covering the right or left speaker, to separate the instruments. and imo, its an accumulative "drift" of all of the instruments.

they need to lock-in on one thing, the snare-drum, for example, or everyone needs to follow the piano...whatever. It needs to be one focal point, which I don't think it is in the verse. The chorus is right on.

this timing issue and song brings to mind the band-movies.
the part where they get signed by a big label and they go to a real studio with engineers and producers and they require 10,000 takes of the #1 song, to perfect things before main release.

and then the musicians get ripped off by the manager and die in a plane crash. ...doh~..........Beware Fame!!....run...run away from money and fame....run away now....take a bus on tour!!!! :eek:
 
The problem is that we recorded piano, bass, and guitar BEFORE we recorded drums, and things ended up a little off in some places. We didn't want to do it that way, but certain circumstances made it unavoidable. I will probably fine tune the piano timing a little more since people liked the song! Thanks everyone for all the feedback so far!!
 
interesting timing issue.
the timing thing sounded familiar, but was elusive... makes sense now.
needs the metronome click track. cool.

anyway, really like the guitar riff, vocals are excellent. it sounds like an upbeat summer radio tune man...I can almost smell the money from here.

not to be obvious...you should post around some other forums for producers/arrangers/publishers.

agree with the rest of everyone..its too good of a song not to work on it.

yeah put me with jpw, on the list for a CD too!
 
yep

illuminatedwax said:
The problem is that we recorded piano, bass, and guitar BEFORE we recorded drums, and things ended up a little off in some places. We didn't want to do it that way, but certain circumstances made it unavoidable. I will probably fine tune the piano timing a little more since people liked the song! Thanks everyone for all the feedback so far!!
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How did i already know that.....you should trust me , based on the unneeded amounts of pain i have gone through in the past someone must learn from my pain and just re-track the verse.

start with a a click at least(as said) or the drums themselves, the Bass is not on 1 because there is no 1 that is in time i was thinking this on second listen, but thought that the corus is so well done you surly wouldn't have the drums out of time, re-track the verse, and stay always from planes (as said). and recording companies. come on it's 2008 lets get creative.

btw you do know when i say 1 i mean the kik . yeah?
 
Listened to #1 and it's a very good song. I question the logic in cloning the main vox when it became noticable to me after only one listen. Of course, the citizens wouldn't pick up on that. Where your vox cracked (very nice, BTW) was the tip-off. The chorus is very nice, but unless the words come up to be recognizable, it sounds a little vanilla. I would retrack the piano, or else clone that too where it finds the beat.
 
Xeries said:
Listened to #1 and it's a very good song. I question the logic in cloning the main vox when it became noticable to me after only one listen. Of course, the citizens wouldn't pick up on that. Where your vox cracked (very nice, BTW) was the tip-off. The chorus is very nice, but unless the words come up to be recognizable, it sounds a little vanilla. I would retrack the piano, or else clone that too where it finds the beat.
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There's actually only one vocal during the verse, there's just a slight delay on it. I'll look at bringing up the volume of the chorus vocals, but we don't want it to be too loud. Thanks for your suggestions!
 
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