SonicAlbert
Super-Sonic "Herb" Albert
Rodger Hartlett said:
Internal power supply.
Internal power supply.
warble
New member
Thank heavens.
CoolCat
Well-known member
Portico Review
i think i'm getting warts from this thread.
this was great thread started by Middleman, great hands on review
...had to add that in here.
i think i'm getting warts from this thread.
this was great thread started by Middleman, great hands on review
...had to add that in here.
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Ptownkid
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acorec said:
I'm sure it's been pointed out, but yes, it is far less "real". Last time I heard, the guys from fender went on to start a new company, just like Gibson, and there's a hell of a big diff between an LP from 75 and an LP from 85.
Regardless, back to the topic at hand. ANYTHING, that mister NEVE is to release is going to be a good product. Period. There's no way that he's gonna make shit pres and I'm pretty sure the man knows what he's doing by now. Especially considering he did 40 some-odd years ago.
Cheers
junplugged
Taking the slow road
Auditioned my DMP3 and it was smooth, I think I actually could hear a difference, but more testing will have to wait, needs to be exchanged....maybe in 2 weeks I'll know more about it....
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Rodger Hartlett
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i'm sure thay are not shit . whether it's good value for money or not is another faecet altogether. fender did very well by cashing in on the strat and tele.
SonicAlbert
Super-Sonic "Herb" Albert
Rodger Hartlett said:
That whole concept of "good value for the money" is somewhat bogus in my opinion. Either the gear performs or it doesn't. Most people who buy the new Neve will be doing so based on its performance, not "good value for the money". If you spend $1,500 and up on a couple preamps you are looking for performance, period.
So your whole argument in this thread about the Neve being overpriced or not a "good value" for the money is based essentially on false assumptions. You are applying home studio budget gear thinking to professional grade performance based equipment, where money is less of a factor than performance.
junplugged
Taking the slow road
There's a good point. I believe it; if you look at any pro studio, there's nothing they wouldn't get that is the best. Or they might even design and build it to be the best like they have in the past because they weren't able to purchase it.SonicAlbert said:
Including the walls.
Middleman
Professional Amateur
Rodger Hartlett said:
Been on vacation and just getting back to this thread.
-The schematic does not show chips it's just a signal flow diagram.
-It's not a wall wart, it's a boa, like laptop computers use.
junplugged
Taking the slow road
Even tho I had a wall wart overheat and almost burn up, I still wouldn't consider them in any buying decisions. They are a pain to accomodate on power strips and the boa? would always be better to have for plug room.
I did have an extra Boss psa-120t new in the box since I use the pedals live and I like to have backups for live stuff....
It was the first time I had a problem with one in years.
I did have an extra Boss psa-120t new in the box since I use the pedals live and I like to have backups for live stuff....
It was the first time I had a problem with one in years.
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KnightMere
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i just wnted to ask(and this might seem dumb) is this pre warm??
Middleman
Professional Amateur
Not in a tube way but full sounding across the spectrum. The Neve touch is the way certain frequencies linger, giving the sound a suspended feel. Your basic Mackie just lays it out there, here and gone. The Neve holds on to the sound, but not like a compressor with slow release, it's a short but pleasing aural experience.
The silk mode takes it to mildy warm and mildly rounded with a bit of high end sheen.
Jeez, trying to describe the sound of a preamp is a failing proposition. You just gotta hear it yourself.
The silk mode takes it to mildy warm and mildly rounded with a bit of high end sheen.
Jeez, trying to describe the sound of a preamp is a failing proposition. You just gotta hear it yourself.
Chris Shaeffer
Peavey ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually you did a good job describing sound with that post. I can kinda imagine what you're talking about.
Nice.
-C
Nice.
-C
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Rodger Hartlett
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i would choose the Great River anyday over the portico.the portico is stuffed full of chips and op amps that is no way class a or discrete. if your after a hi-end sound check out the gre at river.someone posted over at gearsluts:
yes the great river is hi-end alrght.at least it is the copy of the neve that we all heARD on those records so long ago. not some hyped up comprimise.
it so reminds me of the RNP/
yes the great river is hi-end alrght.at least it is the copy of the neve that we all heARD on those records so long ago. not some hyped up comprimise.
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Strave
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Rodger Hartlett said:
Go ahead and check out gearslutz... the person who said that had never even seen it (or used it). The majority of people on gearslutz who used it loved it with the exception of a few. The people who bash it, generally have never used it... kind of like rodger here. In any event, from everything I've heard (from my own experiences with the portico to gearslutz accounts) the quality of components and the sound quality are more or less on par with the great river and other preamps in its price class. The only people you are going to find badmouthing it are people who haven't used it. I believe it was widely preferred over the great river in a recent preamp shoot out on gearslutz as well.
Either way, I don't even know who I'm responding to, but the only way to see if a preamp is right for you is to test it yourself. I determined that for $720 a channel... the sound quality upgrade (and number of features) was well worth it.
Middleman
Professional Amateur
I saw that thread, almost everyone picked the Portico over the Great River. I listened to both tracks and thought the Portico was significantly better which was similar to my results when I tested them side by side.
People who try to make assumptions about gear without having actually used a product, undermine the whole purpose of sharing gear experiences.
People who try to make assumptions about gear without having actually used a product, undermine the whole purpose of sharing gear experiences.
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KnightMere
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yo middleman....i was thinkin about getting this pre and i was talking to aon about what kind of sound i wanted. and i told him i wanted a warm sound. I was reading up on this pre and its a tube pre amp...well AON told me this pre is not warm and told me to get the neve portico. But all the reviews/descriptions say it is..and i think it was used in slim thug song "yall aint heard of that" so my question is..is this a warm pre?? if it is i'll get it and then kinda of music im going to be doing is rap...and if it was used in that slim thug song thats the sound i want...thanks
plus you said the neve is not tube warm..i like the warm sound that was game's album and dre used a neve 1073 but i cnt afford that so thats why i wanted to know this ].
plus you said the neve is not tube warm..i like the warm sound that was game's album and dre used a neve 1073 but i cnt afford that so thats why i wanted to know this ].
warble
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Rodger Hartlett said:
Ohh, so you tried one out finally? Or are we still continuing all this based on assumptions and no real world use?
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Rodger Hartlett
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it has a lot to do with quality and the integrity of the Neve name. i saw the specs and the internal pictures .they are the typical specificAtions that you would find in an op amp driven circuit.it’s like an upgraded version of the rnp . the portico has a completely different build electronically to ANY previous Neve preamp and has MUCH more in common with the RNP than a Great River.
maybe you’re the sucker . something that has neve written on it doesn’t necessarily make it great. have you ever pondered that?
maybe you’re the sucker . something that has neve written on it doesn’t necessarily make it great. have you ever pondered that?
Middleman
Professional Amateur
KnightMere said:
First let me say that a Portico is not a Neve 1073. It's almost but not quite the same sound. That Neve suspended sound I was talking about is much more evident on the 1073. It's also $1500 more in price than the Portico.
For Rap, I would probably look at the Avalon (saw your thread at Gearslutz). It's a known in that industry. The Portico is more of a pop, r&b, maybe country type of preamp. Clear sounding but not sterile with some warmth if required. The Avalon is going to be more rounded and full, maybe not as distinct but closer to the sound of that genre.