grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
Any tall Englishman could've told you that !
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JohanGoode995
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Thanks for the advice, but im confused why you used that quote...?
and is free Cubase better or worse than paid for Reaper?
FunkDaddy
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Well then I would go for the 8 input device, personally. You might find you become quite apt at recording drums and will want the extra inputs for close-miking or room mics.
Mics are honestly a whole other bag of kittens. For drums, you can go the classic SM57 route for close-micing snare and toms, the Beta 52 is always a good bet for kick drums and any decent pair of condenser mics for overheads.
Vocals...depends on the style of music but a large diaphragm condenser mic is usually a good bet for a recording situation.
The SM57's will do double duty for a guitar cab too.
kcearl
I see deaf people
EVERYONE QUIET PLEASE !
OK...
Now.
The contraction of "you are" is "you're" not "your".
That is all.
Thank you
the point of a message board is for folks to understand each message, not to have perfect englich...imho
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dintymoore
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There are no "free" versions of Cubase. What Cubase LE is was a scaled down version that was included when you bought certain pieces of gear. When you bought a Lexicon Omega, it came with Cubase LE.
Reaper is free to try and works basically on the honesty system where, in order to get a nag screen to disappear, you give them something pretty cheap. Is it $60? Something like that.
It makes no difference which one you use at this time. I use Cubase because it was the best one to buy 20 years ago when I needed a program and now changing would be like learning a new language (for what?) plus there is a feature (Logical Edit) that I use that no other DAW I know of has. Reaper looks fine to me.
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JohanGoode995
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$40, same difference.
But what is the logical edit feature? something i would use, or probably not?
and what im asking is if i buy something that comes with Cubase LE, should i use that, or should I get Reaper regardless?
suprstar
It aint ez being green
Try em both, why not. Reaper is an un-crippled free-to-try-forever daw. If Cubase LE comes with an interface, try it out, what the hell.. They both do basically the same thing, one might be a little more intuitive, or have some minor little things you like about em.
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dintymoore
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Probably not. Ask the Cubase Users here and 99% will say "Logical What?".
What Logical Edit allows you to do is, for example, take a MIDI drum track and edit the values of one drum say like this:
Subtract a volume of 10 from snare drums that are higher than 40 but lower that 80 that lie between the "and of 2" and the "and of 3".
Now you see why nobody uses it. Why I use it is because I can tweak in a very cool way. It's ultra useful. The main thing I use it for is adjusting ghost notes, because ghost note volumes affect a groove dramatically.
Incidentaly, about 5 years ago when I was thinking of buying the new version of Cubase I phoned them and asked which versions had Logical Edit. The tech support at Cubase said that it was not longer in any versions, so I kept on using the same 1999 version of Cubase I had. A couple of tears later I phoned them again to see if the newer versions had it and again tech support said "nope, it doesn't exist any more".
Then about a year ago I was reading on line and found that all the "better" versions of Cubase have had it all along and so I bought Cubase 4... an example of how dismal CUbase's tech support is.
mshilarious
Banned
Last I heard Reaper still lacked a score view, which is a pretty serious omission for me, so I use Cubase. On the other end, Wavelab has a ton of stuff that Reaper and Cubase don't even think about. Of course Cubase and Wavelab have common ownership, which explains that. But to me Reaper sits in the middle with a lot of functions but it's missing bits on either end.
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Oancient1
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Let me be the only one here to recommend that, if your total budget permits, there are standalone recorder options that, for newbies, eliminate questions other than monitor and microphone types. The best value these days would seem to be the Tascam 2488. I personally use the Korg D3200. Either will allow export of recorded tracks to WAV files that can later be imported into software DAW for further processing/remixing etc. It can be argued that doing it on a PC provides better quality and more flexibiliity, but if the idea is to get up and running quickly....
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JohanGoode995
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That looks amazing, but WAY too expensive.
Lemme give you a budget update:
I have about $1000 dollars to pour into this thing. but that is about my total life savings from since birth. i would prefer not to spend all that. my guitarist has been offered an amazing deal: $1000 for getting all A's on his report card(crazy, right? 1000 freaking dollars!!) to go towards the studio. my drummer and guitarist will also contribute towards this too, but i dont know how much.
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dintymoore
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I've seen the Lexicon Omega's go for $80. If you all ready have a computer and a few mics that $80 could get you started. There's probably better interfaces to get, maybe an 8 pre one. And you'll probably want some monitor speakers and another mic... but I wouldn't think $1000 is crazy at all to get going. You could get going for way, way less than that,
It might even be better to start cheap to get an idea of what you want, 'cause there's lots of different ways of working.
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JohanGoode995
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Its definetly possible to get started for very cheap, but i may as well get good equipment. im looking at an approx. 100-250 dollar range for an interface, maybe $50 if i find a software that i really like, but i can probably just use free versions of Cubase. im gonna need more mics, so that may be the biggest spender. also im going to need maybe another $100 for lumber to build a wall with a door. but these values are all approximate.
also location update: I have a very solid shed in my backyard that is currently not being used for anything. its a pretty good size, so im going to build a wall to make a booth. the only problem is the window: i have no clue how to install a window. my dad is getting a professional contractor to do some work on the house soon, so im going to ask his opinion. but other than that, i think the concept is coming along quite nicely, may start buying things soon.
and ive looked at some good websites and i understand the whole process much better now, thank you for all your help
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dintymoore
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That sounds good.
There's no free Cubase. There's ones that come with interfaces, but you have to buy the interface. If you're buying something used check to see what software it was supposed to come with .
Unless I had a really big amount of space I wouldn't divide my recording space into rooms. Most places are too small in the first place and dividing makes it worse. Lots of people have the recording stuff right in the room with them and just use one big room.
Some people use moveable dividers that, when the player's sit and play, their heads stick above so that they can have visual contact.
You don't have to have every instrument totally isolated from the others, some bleed can be good.
There's no free Cubase. There's ones that come with interfaces, but you have to buy the interface. If you're buying something used check to see what software it was supposed to come with .
Unless I had a really big amount of space I wouldn't divide my recording space into rooms. Most places are too small in the first place and dividing makes it worse. Lots of people have the recording stuff right in the room with them and just use one big room.
Some people use moveable dividers that, when the player's sit and play, their heads stick above so that they can have visual contact.
You don't have to have every instrument totally isolated from the others, some bleed can be good.
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Oancient1
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Understood ... there are less expensive standalones, but none that will give you the number of simutaneous recording tracks you will need for what you want to do.