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I'm looking to buy a new guitar to upgrade from my Washburn WI-64DL. I've got three choices currently.

1. Gibson Les Paul Studio - musiciansfriend .com/guitars/gibson-les-paul-studio-electric-guitar

2. ESP LTD Delux EC-1000 - musiciansfriend .com/guitars/esp-ltd-deluxe-ec-1000-electric-guitar/516629

3. Schecter Hellraiser C-1 FR - musiciansfriend .com/guitars/schecter-guitar-research-hellraiser-c-1-fr-electric-guitar

I know that the Schecter really comes out of left field with the other 2 options, but I love Breaking Benjamin, so I threw it in as an option. I really like to play a vast array of music. I love classic rock, modern rock, modern country. I guess I'm looking for something that will be versatile from playing clean to playing really dirty.

Is there another option I should be looking into?

Thanks for your input.
 
As to versatile the first one I think of is a telecaster.
Just a thought. ;)
 
Wiskid said:
I love classic rock, modern rock, modern country. I guess I'm looking for something that will be versatile from playing clean to playing really dirty.
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No brainer; Les Paul. Rich clean tone and sounds like a truck when destorted.
 
As far as quality goes for me it would run like so:

1. The EC1000
2. The Hellraiser
3. The Studio

The why:

The EC1000: Has locking machine heads, I like the emg 81/60 setup more than the 81/85 setup. It doesn't have a floyd (unless you really want one and know what getting into one means avoid them haha). I own one of these, I would rather have one of these than a standard les paul let alone a studio.

The Hellraiser: Still a nice guitar, a little less frills than the one above. The floyd might be a plus for you, but it's a huge negative for me due to the inability to change turnings quickly on the fly. Floyds (if you have never owned one) are pretty finicky bridge setups.

The Les Paul: Fucking overpriced horse shit. Your paying for the name Gibson, and the studio is a no frills instrument. With the exception of older les paul standards I don't fucking get why these things are so much cash other than the name on the head stock. I had a custom come through last year with emg pickups and I honestly had no clue why the instrument was $3200 (he bought it used of course, I think they go new for $3800). It was no better than an ESP horizon in the way it played or sounded.
 
chrisghost said:
No brainer; Les Paul. Rich clean tone and sounds like a truck when destorted.
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That's what I thought I was going to hear. Is the quality of the Studio still exceptional? Or would I need to spring for a Standard to get the awesome Gibson quality?

Thanks for the replies, guys.
 
What are the disadvantages of using EMG's? I understand they are better for high-gain implementations, like death metal, is that the case? That's my only worry with the EC1000 and the Hellraiser, because I'm not into metal.

And I realize you're buying a name with a Gibson, but isn't it worth it?
 
Guitargodgt said:
As far as quality goes for me it would run like so:

1. The EC1000
2. The Hellraiser
3. The Studio

The why:

The EC1000: Has locking machine heads, I like the emg 81/60 setup more than the 81/85 setup. It doesn't have a floyd (unless you really want one and know what getting into one means avoid them haha). I own one of these, I would rather have one of these than a standard les paul let alone a studio.
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I own 3 EC1000s lol, don't ask. I love those guitars.

I would have to agree with dogbreath about the tele though, one of the most versatile guitars you can find. A buddy off mine has one with a emg thrown in at the neck. Sounds amazing!
 
Wiskid said:
What are the disadvantages of using EMG's? I understand they are better for high-gain implementations, like death metal, is that the case? That's my only worry with the EC1000 and the Hellraiser, because I'm not into metal.

And I realize you're buying a name with a Gibson, but isn't it worth it?
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They produce great cleans as well. The 60 in particular. I'm more of a hard rock/heavy blues player and I love the sound I get from my ECs. And don't forget a lot of it has to do with the amp/tubes/speakers your using as well that's going to determine your tone.
 
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Play the epiphone les paul and then play the gibson - see if you can hear the $1200

I like EMG's - but I don't play clean - I don't play metal either, IDK what the hell I play - but EMG's rock - the pickups on my Les Paul standard are also pretty sweet but I'm no guitar expert so WTF do I know?
 
haha, I assume you didn't see the $1200, and got an Epi? What kind of music do you play? Breaking Benjamin-ish?
 
I spent many years buying guitars. All kinds of guitars. I would be excited at first and then the magic would slowly drift away. All of the guitar brands. From cheap to mid ranged, to high end. After 20 years of buying, selling, trading, loving and losing guitars I finally settled for Jackson USA guitars. You can clearly hear and feel the difference from a guitar that costs around $1000 or less to the $2000 and up made in the USA Jackson. You can find one that suits your tastes with stop bar tail piece or Floyd rose which I prefer because once it's set up it never goes out of tune.

A few of my buddies that I jam with for fun now and then who also have nice guitars are actually bothered by the fact that my Jackson USA soloist SL2H plays and sounds way better than any of their guitars. Now they want to sell their shit and go the same route. I got mine used on Ebay for $1170 with free 2 day express shipping and other than a small ding no one will see it's in perfect condition. I learned to do my own set ups as well over the years. So, it's just how I want it and I love every minute I have to spend playing it :D
 
I like the extra jumbo fretts on the ESPs... makes it more fun to play, especially if you put fat bitches on there and downtune.
 
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