Nearfields on STEROIDS

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hi,
I will make this as short as possible so that I can get some replies. Here goes:

What do you guys think,

I read in this months EQ that audiphile quality heaphones matched with an audiophile amp will give you far better detail than any regular nearfields. he said they are basically nearfields on steroids

THe man suggested: Grado rs2($450) stax lambda nova with tube amp($1500) or sennheiser hd600 (330)

I found on the internet that the grado 325s have even better detail than the rs2, and they will make you think that YOUR SPEAKERS ARE FAULTY, and that some people actually do not like them because of they expose any and every imperfection.

from the homerecording point of view, this is awesome news so NOw I am saving up $295 to get me a pair

So what do you guys think? Do you agree or disagree.


Of course, they have to be used with your NS10MS :) because all headphones exagerrate the stereo image and dont hit you in -your face with bass(in your chest, but I had to make it rhyme)

comments greatly appreciated
 
I read that article... it makes quite a bit of sense that headphones can outperform nearfields - no room effects, solid bass response... bottom-line for usablity -- mix using nearfields, have it mastered, enjoy the final results on headphones! :)

Bruce Valeriani
Blue Bear Sound
 
The only thing that I would be weary of is that things happen to sound in space that don't happen in headphones. Without a doubt good headphones will allow you to hear a lot of detail but stereo things, reverbs/time based effects and such to my ear are different in headphones verses nearfields. I think it would be prudent to use both and not rely on just one or the other.
 
so bvaleria,

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that if I mix on nearfields , the result will sound better on headphones than if I originaly mixed on headphones. Could the opposite also be true: If I mix on audiohile headphones, could the result sound better on nearfields or homespeakers than If I originally mixed on nearfields?

I agree with track rat that you also have to monitor with nearfields , but the reason I asked the question in the first place was-- should i spend $295 on the Grados or will I be better off spending about $600 in powered nearfields.

Right now, I think I will be better off with the phones cause more detail is exactly what I need and I already have some capable industry standard nearfields to work with
 
Hey Jag...

Music mixed on nearfields usually sound excellent on headphones too... The opposite is not true at all. Headphone mixes tend NOT to translate to speakers AT ALL - unless someone REALLY REALLY knows what they're doing.

Imaging is totally off, and effect balances tend to be inaccurate (ie, what sounds like the right amount of reverb is usually too dry on speakers). Headphones do make a useful reference point in the pre-mixing stages, where you want to analyze the quality of a track, or to check for aberrations and sound anomalies.

If you already have good monitors, by all means go for the phones - just don't depend on them for mixing decisions and it'll work out ok!

Bruce
 
I'll second that last comment by bvaleria that headphones are great when scouring a single track for imperfections, but mixing in them would be a disaster because the imaging created in phones is very different from that created by the same signal through near-fields in a room. I guess you could "learn" the phones like you "learn" your monitors, but I find it just more comfortable mixing outside of headphones.
 
you guys were freaking right.

I just did a mix on my NS 10ms and checked them through two pairs of headphones. THey sounded way tight. THe (cheap) headphones virtually covered all mistakes in eq. Cool.

Now if I had a pair of Mackie hr824s.
 
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