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COOLCAT said:
I still don't get the wigs and panty hose the dudes wore back then? whats up with that?
That was the pre-cursor to the big hair and spandex in the eighties.

I also like Mozart in that 'Parenthood' movie with Steve Martin.
 
ez_willis said:
It's a little known fact, but it's been proven that Mozart didn't know theory.

So Mozart, one of the most famous composers of all time didn't know theory, but little ole me knows theory even though I don't know I know? Then why didn't Mozart know it even if he didn't know he knew, ya know? hehe :D
 
Speaking of Yngwie, I think his music had much more emotion than Vai or Satriani. I spun "Black Star" alone about a hundred times. I spun Vai's entire "Passion and Warfare" album twice.

I mean, Yngwie was still a pretentious snob, you can only go so far with the whole "metal meets classical" fusion before it becomes contrived, and these days I prefer Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman when it comes to great shredding, but Yngwie was a tiny bit above the speed-for-speed's-sake clique IMO.
 
EDAN said:
So Mozart, one of the most famous composers of all time didn't know theory, but little ole me knows theory even though I don't know I know? Then why didn't Mozart know it even if he didn't know he knew, ya know? hehe :D

Mozart transcribed a nine-part choral work, from memory, that he had only heard twice.



He was 13 years old at the time :eek:
 
EDAN said:
So Mozart, one of the most famous composers of all time didn't know theory, but little ole me knows theory even though I don't know I know? Then why didn't Mozart know it even if he didn't know he knew, ya know? hehe :D
That was a joke. When was the last time EZ posted something serious in this thread?
 
Mozart was cool. There's a great book that's a collection of his letters to his sister throughout his life where he talks about everything going on and what he thought about it. Wicked sense of humor. Every musician should read it. Funny how much stays the same for musicians over the centuries.

And BTW, he was very well educated in music by his father Leopold, a pro musician and excellent teacher.

Tim
 
Cyrokk said:
Speaking of Yngwie, I think his music had much more emotion than Vai or Satriani. I spun "Black Star" alone about a hundred times. I spun Vai's entire "Passion and Warfare" album twice.

I mean, Yngwie was still a pretentious snob, you can only go so far with the whole "metal meets classical" fusion before it becomes contrived, and these days I prefer Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman when it comes to great shredding, but Yngwie was a tiny bit above the speed-for-speed's-sake clique IMO.
Oh yeah!!!! There's more to shredding than pure speed. Coming up with a catchy tune always helps a bit..... :D

Slayer has speed, but they also seem to put together tunes as a whole. That aint no myth.
 
Check this out, someone posted it in the Guitar and Bass Forum today-
STAT1STICK said:
I was trying to come up with something that harmonized but I guess I'm just no good at it. I've done it maybe twice in my whole life but they were completely on accident.
Now, let's talk about theory again!
 
ez_willis said:
Check this out, someone posted it in the Guitar and Bass Forum today-

Now, let's talk about theory again!

I think he's got more problems than theory if he can't figure that one out. but he might be deaf so you never know...
 
mrT said:
I think he's got more problems than theory if he can't figure that one out. but he might be deaf so you never know...
Mozart went deaf.

Thing about theory is you don't have to be able to hear it to know that certain notes will work together.
 
ez_willis said:
Mozart went deaf.

Thing about theory is you don't have to be able to hear it to know that certain notes will work together.
That is so true. On the piano, I have to pick and peck to find what sounds good togather, and it is very time consuming. I am just now starting to learn theory and realizing the importance of it.

I seem to have this brain freeze with listening skills, and must be whacked in the head first, in order to arouse my full attention to understanding.... :eek:
 
ez_willis said:
Mozart went deaf.

Thing about theory is you don't have to be able to hear it to know that certain notes will work together.
No, Beethoven went deaf.

Mozart went dead.

A far more significant handicap to anyone's career.
 
I heard that beethoven was able to "hear" the notes because he lay his head against the piano whilst playing, thus "feeling" the tonal relationship.
 
some people's brains don't accept theory that well either. My partner Nate is a tremendous musician and songwriter. He understands notation, chord forms, harmonic structure, rythms, polyrythms, etc. But if we are arranging a choral vocal section with say, 1 main and 4 harmonies, if i say that i want one of them to follow the melody a 3rd up, he has trouble conceptualizing the sound, although he does know what a 3rd is.

Some folks just need to hear it. And some folks don't.
 
brendandwyer said:
some people's brains don't accept theory that well either. My partner Nate is a tremendous musician and songwriter. He understands notation, chord forms, harmonic structure, rythms, polyrythms, etc. But if we are arranging a choral vocal section with say, 1 main and 4 harmonies, if i say that i want one of them to follow the melody a 3rd up, he has trouble conceptualizing the sound, although he does know what a 3rd is.

Some folks just need to hear it. And some folks don't.

er... what language you speakin? Polyrythms, melody....uh wha??? :D

I hear ya!
 
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