My new closet studio - Pictures ~

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Well, as promised, here are some pics of my new closet studio.

You can view them here.

Also, if interested, I have a thread that shows how I made the panels.

Anyways, my next step is to make some clouds and some triangle bass traps in the tri-corners.

I plan to sing and also track my guitar work in the corner where the vertical panel is hung. Is it best if I face the corner (panel) or should my back be to the panel since the mic will be pointed at the panel (kind of confused on this point here) :confused:

Any feedback welcome, thanks again for all of the help and I hope to get this room done soon and start recording some cool tunes to post here.

- Cincy_Kid
 
Wow... that is SMALL!!!! :D Makes my studio look like a mansion. I'm curious as to what the bull horn is for.

As for which direction you face to track your guitar, I'd imagine in a space that small it's not going to make mush difference exactly which direction you face. But, I wouldn't really face directly into a wall because that would get bassy.
 
Hey Sonic,

Yeah, just a walk in closet that I converted into small recording/listening space :)

The bullhorn was when I was frontman in my old band and doing some BUSH machinehead!

Well the reason I asked about the direction is because in this thread here, pandamonk said to have the mic point away from anything that may pick up extra noise.

Since I dont have extra panels made, I am wondering the best way to track vocals/guitar in this room.

Anyways, thanks for the reply and any other advice you can lend is appreciated!
 
I'm thinking that florescent my produce some noise...
 
yea, that needs to go. I am going to exchange it for a nice incadescent light (prolly with a dimmer) :)
 
cincy_kid said:
yea, that needs to go. I am going to exchange it for a nice incadescent light (prolly with a dimmer) :)

Right on man... Are those 703 rigid panels?
 
Also, I forgot to ask in the original post....

In the corners of this room will be my monitors (on stands) so that the monitors and my chair will be an equlatteral triangle.

My question is, I am not sure if my computer monitor will cause refelections. Furthermore, the 2 top shelves on my computer desk are about ear height, so I am wondering if they will cause a problem too.

Any advice?
 
cincy_kid said:
Also, I forgot to ask in the original post....

In the corners of this room will be my monitors (on stands) so that the monitors and my chair will be an equlatteral triangle.

My question is, I am not sure if my computer monitor will cause refelections. Furthermore, the 2 top shelves on my computer desk are about ear height, so I am wondering if they will cause a problem too.

Any advice?

Yeah... It probably would... it's almost unavoidable in this case.. However.. If you're picky and have some money.. Get an LCD ... That way you can set it back further (behind the back end of the triangle)... It would help with the reflections.. You might even get two lcds.. and mount them on the wall using VESA mounts...

As far as the shelves go.. It would best if you can ge tthe tweeters at ear height...
But i dunno if your monitors are able to on their side (consult the manual)... It would help a lil.. But there is debate about whether its a good thing to have em on their side.... Maybe you could modify the desk somehow?
 
Also.. You're just down the road from me (a piece).. where did ya buy that 703.. and did they have 705? Was it cheap?
 
Hey peritus,

Yea 703 rigid fiberglass :)

Also, thinking about getting a small laptop to put in there instead of the bulky CRT monitor, but the real problem will be the shelves I am guessing. Yea I can take the shelves off, but the shelf backing (hard to see in pics) will remain, which are about ear height...hrmmm

as far as where to buy rigid fiberglass:

check SPI out . not sure whats closest to you, but I got it from the Cincinnati location.

Great price I thought too. I seen some other posts on here and mine was much cheaper. They had to order it and since they didn't have any in stock I had to buy a bundle (12 sheets), which was fine since I planned on using that many anyways.

Cost ended up being like $6.84 / per sheet (spent like $84 with tax for the lot).

Good luck, and thanks for the feedback ~
 
Hey.. Thanks for the great info!

My suggestion for the desk is to go to Office Depot/Staples/... Some office store..

And buy a ol' school folding table... They have different lengths.. Hopefully one that would fit... I bought a 5 foot for my 15x11 studio.. It's one of the best purchases I've ever made...

Right now the monitors are sitting on the desk, upon bricks to raise em to the right height...

Once I get some LCDs.. I'm gonna move em to stands.. That's too bad that you can't.. but You'll do fine with the bricks, I think..

Good luck.. Thanks again
 
Man, I appreciate the suggestion, but no way can I get a regular folding table after I have that nice console desk in there. I have a folding table in the garage, but could not stand to use it for my room.

If it gets bad and I see that the shelves on the desk are too much of a problem I will consider other options I suppose.

Thanks again and good luck on the fiberglass! :)
 
I am still wondering about the monitors in the corners. Does anyone think they may be better sitting on top of the 2 shelves (since there will be less reflections from the path of monitors to my ears) instead of on stands behind the desk like my original plan?
 
Cincy, someone else might disagree, but I think that given the small size of your room, along with the shape of your desk, your best bet is going to be to just put the monitors on the two desk shelves. If you used stands, they'd pretty much be having to touch the back corners of the room to fit - I don't think that would be a good idea. The way your desk is laid out, if you used the two shelves, I don't believe you'd have a problem with reflections off your video monitor (particularly if you switched to an lcd and moved it back a bit, as Peritus suggested). Also the angles of any reflections that you got from those shelves to the top of your desk surface would be pretty steep - I can't imagine that would be too big a problem relative to the overall scheme of things. As it sounds like you're probably thinking, I'd agree that you should have a lot less reflections from monitors on the desk than monitors behind the desk on stands, and as an added benefit, you're overall placement within the room would probably be better this way.

Now, if you want to "decouple" your audio monitors from the desk, you might want to look into the Auralex Mopads (or something similar). What these would do is cut down on the transmission of vibrations from your monitors into your desk, which may have the effect of "coloring" your sound, or worse, the bass frequencies could cause irritating vibration noises from items on your desk. The mopads should reduce those problems and give you the effect of having your monitors on individual stands, but you'd have a much more efficient layout for your little room.

Good luck with this project! While you're space is certaily small, it's obvious that you are doing your homework and painstakingly attempting to make the best of what you have. I think it's going to work out fine.
 
I agree with Jeff. Also if mounted on the shelves, that leaves the corners free for bass traps. I know you are planning on cutting the 703 into triangles, but i think building them within a frame, although maybe not quite so effective, will use less 703 and save you money.
 
Hello Jeff, and welcome to my thread! :D

I am very glad you posted this. I have been wondering this too about putting them on my shelves which also would allow me to push the desk further back towards the wall giving me a bit more tracking area.

This is great news! (as long as no other experts shoot it down :eek: )

Also, thanks very much for the mopads advice, I am sure I will grab some.

Very small space indeed and have been reading and asking many questions on here, lol. Thanks for the vote of confidence ~

In closing, I was wondering if you or anyone had an opinion on a laptop for my computer. It would be even smaller than an LCD and much quieter. The reason I ask is a friend of mine bought one to do his recording on years ago and ended up selling it for some reason saying "it wasn't working out and he like his PC better". Was this just a user error or is there something I dont know about laptops that may make it hard(er) to work with doing some home recording?
 
Not that a laptop can't work, but you can usually get more performance with a lower price using a desktop, plus desktops are cheaper and easier to upgrade down the line. Noise is a problem, and laptops are usually quieter, but perhaps in your case you could consider putting your computer outside the room? Run your cables through a port of some type in the wall and keep the computer noise on the outside perhaps?
 
Ok, well if I end up getting a laptop in the near future I may try it out...

as far as noise, I would rather keep everything inside the room (make the wife happy :rolleyes: ).

Was thinking of doing something more like Ethan's idea.

Anyways, thanks again!

(Still excited about monitor solution!!!)
 
Yep, I can sympathize with you about the "keeping the wife happy" point! Yes, doing something like the pictures on Ethan's site would help. It will also help to keep your PC components as quiet as possible to start with. Look at the power supplies and fans from www.pcpowerandcooling.com. I've found that the Seagate Barracuda hard drives are the quietest in addition to being fast. I've also seen where you can get materials to line the inside of your computer case and cut down on noise. Myself, I made a ventilated enclosure to put my computers in, however that would probably take up more space than it would be worth in your small room. Still, I think with some work you can get your PC close to the quietness of a typical laptop, and it would still be a more powerful and economical way to go.
 
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