My Home Studio.

[pandamonk]

Right I'm listening again, sober. I think the vocals and kit sound quite good(except the clipping). But they don't seem to bind well with the guitars.

The guitars sound good on their own at the start, but not really with the rest. It still sounds like it's got a lot of mid. I think with that guitar sound, you want quite big sounding drums.

I still agree with what i said last night. The vocals sound quite distant. Think they could do with some compression. Did you double track the guitars?

Definitely an improvement imo.

Cheers

 

[pandamonk]

Actually. Could you send me all the tracks(mp3 will be fine), and i'll have a go at mixing

You can send them to, mad_lee_drummer@hotmail.com.

Obviously you can't fix in the mix. If it sounds bad when it's recorded, it always will. But, I'd like a go at getting a good sound from this. It's good practice for me anyway.

Cheers

Lee

 

[Lepricoin]

Actually. Could you send me all the tracks(mp3 will be fine), and i'll have a go at mixing

You can send them to, mad_lee_drummer@hotmail.com.

Obviously you can't fix in the mix. If it sounds bad when it's recorded, it always will. But, I'd like a go at getting a good sound from this. It's good practice for me anyway.

Cheers

Lee

hey i just sent them

and yeah i did double track the guitars and set them apart about 22ms and panned them to L and R

is there a vst plugin that i could get as far as compression? because i dont think cubase LE has one....

the vocals are recorded through a condenser mic that i just got....an akg perception 200...

well anyway i look forward to seeing what you can do with those tracks.

 

[pandamonk]

Hi, thanks for sending them. I actually meant the individual tracks of the new song. So like kick, snare, toms, guitar, etc. If that's possible.

I also expect that cubase le has a compressor. Probably in the dynamics section.

 

[Lepricoin]

hey i can get you those tracks no poroblem but it may not be for a day or two...im gonna have to create a new project for each and export the individually. Will .wav file be too large? If so i can convert them to mp3.

LET ME KNOW!

 

[pandamonk]

wav would be better, but yeah it'll be too large. mp3 will do fine. There might be an easier way to do it that creating a new project for each, but I don't know cubase that well. I suspect that you have a file with all the recordings/backups. Maybe if you copy all the files into an mp3 converter(itunes or whatever) it'd be quicker.

I also think that you may be able to just select each individual track, and export as mp3. It's my understanding that you have to select all the tracks for it to export the full song as mp3. Or maybe you have to solo each track as you export... It's easier than creating a new project.

Anyway, sorry for asking you to do this.

Lee

 

[cusebassman]

If you save the project with wav files, they will be something like 30MB / track. An entire song could be anywhere from 30-400MB in that case - way too big for an email attachment.

As for Cubase LE & compression, on the track you want compression on, go to the insert menu, enable the first insert, and then click on where it says "no effect" or whatever the label is - in the dropdown menu, go to dynamics, and select compression.

From there you can enable the compressor, gate and limiter for that channel.

 

[cusebassman]

By the way, are those guitar parts tracked with mics or DI'd? If you mentioned earlier, I apologise - I've listened to the new track, but its been a while since ive really been through this thread thoroughly (didn't read all of page one over again )

 

[pandamonk]

Do you know how lepricoin can export the individual tracks as mp3? I read somewhere that it's not possible without a plugin. You could just solo each track and export though, couldn't you?

 

[cusebassman]

Do you know how lepricoin can export the individual tracks as mp3? I read somewhere that it's not possible without a plugin. You could just solo each track and export though, couldn't you?

Im not sure about the export of an entire project into a compressed format, however I do believe you could export individual tracks.

If all your tracks start at the beginning of the song, you could just go into the project folder, and convert every item in the folder to mp3 using a batch converter like this one:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm

Then the other person could set up their own project to try out mixing it. Granted, it would be a mix that was created by use of mp3's... you could also coordinate a time between the two of you to transfer directly via ftp host from one machine to the other, but you would have to leave the connection up for rather long periods of time.

To set up such a thing, you could either use the Windows Service FTP, or the ridiculously easy-to-use client zFTP Server:

http://www.zftpserver.com/

Like I said, it'll take longer, but its all about whether you think you might want to actually go with this guy's mix. If you do, transfer the wav files. If you just want an idea of how to go about doing it, send the mp3's and don't worry about losing the project file or the quality of the final mix.

 

[pandamonk]

We'll i'll just be mucking around trying to get a good sound so mp3s are fine. I don't really understand what you're saying, and really have to go, so i'll read slower later. Btw, i don't have cubase LE. I'll be using audacity...

 

[cusebassman]

We'll i'll just be mucking around trying to get a good sound so mp3s are fine.

Looks like the rest of my forthcoming post is irrelevant then, but I persist!

I don't really understand what you're saying, and really have to go, so i'll read slower later.

An FTP server on your local computer is a program that basically enables other people to type ftp://your.ip.address.booya into Internet Explorer, log in with a preset username and password, and connect to your local machine to transfer files back and forth. You can set restrictions so that the people connecting have certain access to specified areas of your machine (based on which user and password are logged in, also things you manage yourself).

Sometimes I forget that not everyone using these contraptions knows these things, when there's no reason why they should to begin with... I only learned how to set up this software because I was in a similar bind at one time, and AIM was crashing because the files I was trying to transfer to someone were simply too large.

Btw, i don't have cubase LE. I'll be using audacity...

I think someone else had asked about compression in Cubase LE. If not, and I completley made that up, sorry 'bout that

 

[Lepricoin]

By the way, are those guitar parts tracked with mics or DI'd? If you mentioned earlier, I apologise - I've listened to the new track, but its been a while since ive really been through this thread thoroughly (didn't read all of page one over again )

The guitars are both mic'd i dont think i will be doing much more direct inputs for electric guitar...its just way too clean for my taste.

 

[pandamonk]

Looks like the rest of my forthcoming post is irrelevant then, but I persist!



An FTP server on your local computer is a program that basically enables other people to type ftp://your.ip.address.booya into Internet Explorer, log in with a preset username and password, and connect to your local machine to transfer files back and forth. You can set restrictions so that the people connecting have certain access to specified areas of your machine (based on which user and password are logged in, also things you manage yourself).

Sometimes I forget that not everyone using these contraptions knows these things, when there's no reason why they should to begin with... I only learned how to set up this software because I was in a similar bind at one time, and AIM was crashing because the files I was trying to transfer to someone were simply too large.



I think someone else had asked about compression in Cubase LE. If not, and I completley made that up, sorry 'bout that

Yeh, Lepricoin said he didn't think cubase LE had compression, i mentioned that it'd be under dynamics. I use share files in MSN Messenger, so i know what you're talking about. I just read it too fast and most of it went over my head, haha. I had to read fast though, 'cause i was going to work on the studio. Having a break now though. Got flooring down in one room though

 

[pandamonk]

The guitars are both mic'd i dont think i will be doing much more direct inputs for electric guitar...its just way too clean for my taste.

DIing is ok if you have a decent quality effects board. But even then, amps are usually better.

 

[cusebassman]

The guitars are both mic'd i dont think i will be doing much more direct inputs for electric guitar...its just way too clean for my taste.

DIing is ok if you have a decent quality effects board. But even then, amps are usually better.

I thought they were DI'd... a lot of that mid-range sound that you normally hear in DI'd electric tracks seems to be prevalent. Huh.

DI can work to a point, mostly when you have a lot of heavy processing going on, but even that can't completely defeat that dreaded midrange sound that DI tends to have.

 

[Lepricoin]

Well the eq on my epiphone firefly has been set to 12o'clock across the board (high mid bass)...i didnt really know what to set them at so i just put them all at the default setting...thats more because i have never actually heard a guitar eq'd well...or been shown how to properly eq anything. I have a friend who thinks he knows alot but i dont really like how his set up sounds...

the amp seems to love that mid range voice ...should i knock down the mids and crank up the high and bass?

 

[cusebassman]

the amp seems to love that mid range voice ...should i knock down the mids and crank up the high and bass?

The amp will love what you tell it to love!

But in all honesty, I'd just try futzing with different mid settings - even leaving the bass and treble alone. Just as a test - you don't need to go retracking everything on account of my one comment. I've just never liked that particular sound - if you're okay with it, then that's the most important thing, really.

 

[pandamonk]

Well the eq on my epiphone firefly has been set to 12o'clock across the board (high mid bass)...i didnt really know what to set them at so i just put them all at the default setting...thats more because i have never actually heard a guitar eq'd well...or been shown how to properly eq anything. I have a friend who thinks he knows alot but i dont really like how his set up sounds...

the amp seems to love that mid range voice ...should i knock down the mids and crank up the high and bass?

I wouldn't scoop the mids. But maybe play about with it until you get a sound you like, that goes well with everything else. Maybe a little less mid, but not drastic.

 

[Lepricoin]

I thought they were DI'd... a lot of that mid-range sound that you normally hear in DI'd electric tracks seems to be prevalent. Huh.

DI can work to a point, mostly when you have a lot of heavy processing going on, but even that can't completely defeat that dreaded midrange sound that DI tends to have.

So since you though that they were DI'd, this must mean my mic is working well correct?