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chessrock
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Why is it that when I use delay on vocal tracks, the esses and "sh" all sound like they're echoing a lot more than the rest of the voice? Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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VotaIdiota
New member
is the vocal compressed yet?
it could be that all the "sssss" are just louder than the rest of the track, so the delay is getting inherently more input from them than the rest of the vocal....
it could be that all the "sssss" are just louder than the rest of the track, so the delay is getting inherently more input from them than the rest of the vocal....
Blue Bear Sound
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Route a de-esser before you compress....
Compression will certainly make sibilance morre prominent, for the reason VI mentioned..........!
Compression will certainly make sibilance morre prominent, for the reason VI mentioned..........!
Buffalo Bob
New member
"Route a de-esser before you compress....
Boy...talk about sibilence!
Boy...talk about sibilence!
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chessrock
Banned
Without the delay, the sibilances do not sound exaggerated in the least (and it's already compressed). Is there a name/term for this phenomenon? 
If not, I'll give it one. Maybe I can win a nobel prize or something:
DISE (Delay-induced-sibilant-exaggeration).
Think of it. I could be like the next nyquist, pythagrian, . . . or Stephen Paul!
Then I'll come out with a special processor to combat this phenomenon that consists of an outboard delay with a (built-in) side-chained de-esser.
It'll be called the "No-dise." Pretty spiffy, eh?
If not, I'll give it one. Maybe I can win a nobel prize or something:
DISE (Delay-induced-sibilant-exaggeration).
Think of it. I could be like the next nyquist, pythagrian, . . . or Stephen Paul!
Then I'll come out with a special processor to combat this phenomenon that consists of an outboard delay with a (built-in) side-chained de-esser.
It'll be called the "No-dise." Pretty spiffy, eh?
TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
That is a pretty common problem. If your delay doesn't have it's own EQ settings than run it though an EQ and cut around 5-7k or where ever the problem is. I usually do a pretty healthy high roll off on all delays and verbs. It keeps the original sound a little more clear and distinct and gives the effects a warmer sound.
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littledog
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Mr. Tex be the man!
Exactly what I would do. It is a problem not just with delays, but very common with reverb as well. That's why so many reverb devices have some sort of EQ built in. It's also another reason why it is nice to route the effects returns back into a couple of spare channels with EQ - then you can use the board EQ to fix it.
Exactly what I would do. It is a problem not just with delays, but very common with reverb as well. That's why so many reverb devices have some sort of EQ built in. It's also another reason why it is nice to route the effects returns back into a couple of spare channels with EQ - then you can use the board EQ to fix it.
Buffalo Bob
New member
So THAT'S why my mixes suck! I've got it now! Look out Bob Clearmountain!
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VotaIdiota
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oh crap, I completely forgot about eq!!!!
I'm so ashamed of myself.....
on both echo and reverb, I usually start rolling stuff off at 4-5k.... so that would help with the sibilance thing...
I'm so ashamed of myself.....
on both echo and reverb, I usually start rolling stuff off at 4-5k.... so that would help with the sibilance thing...