My brother won't sell me his drums!

[capnkid]

He is 45 and never plays them anymore. They are circa 77', 78' black ludwig's with zildjian cymbals from that era. The bass is oversized at 24". I don't know what model they are.

 

[Gorty]

He is 45 and never plays them anymore. They are circa 77', 78' black ludwig's with zildjian cymbals from that era. The bass is oversized at 24". I don't know what model they are.

Just ask to borrow them for a while, if he never uses them he might eventually sell them to you or if not you will at least have them and you can pretend they're yours!

 

[Chris Shaeffer]

I didn't play my Les Paul Custom for about 8 years.

In those 8 years I though of selling it, maybe for 8 or 9 seconds. No way. Never. Doesn't matter that I wasn't playing music that required an electric guitar- its just too damn good a guitar to let go of and I knew I'd wind back around to it someday. So I guess I understand his point of view.

Definately try to borrow them, though. If he's game you'll get some use out of them, he'll still own them, and you could do something nice in return like replace the heads. Great deal all the way around- he'll be happy to have new heads and they'll sound killer for you.

Good luck!
Chris

 

[Tim Brown]

He is 45 and never plays them anymore. They are circa 77', 78' black ludwig's with zildjian cymbals from that era. The bass is oversized at 24". I don't know what model they are.

1. How old are you?
2. 24" isn't an "oversized" bassdrum.
3. I have had ludwigs from that Era - they aren't any better than what is out now.
4. Okay, so go buy a drumkit - how hard can that be? If you need more money, then get a second job and save every dime from it for a few months until you can pay for your new set. That's what I did.

I'm getting ready to go on a major "Work tour", and once it starts - I probably won't b back on here for ages - I'm going to be working 2 full time jobs so that I can buy a small apartment building.
Why? Because I want it.

The only thing holding you back is you. Put some backbone where your wishbone is, and in a few months you could be the owner of a brand new "whatever brand of kit you want". I mean, figure you'll make at least $1000 a month - even at $8 an hour you'd make over $1,000 a month working full time.




Tim

 

[HangDawg]

He is 45 and never plays them anymore. They are circa 77', 78' black ludwig's with zildjian cymbals from that era. The bass is oversized at 24". I don't know what model they are.

Bummer, my bro gave me a 5 piece set of Tama Granstar Customs and all Paiste Signature brass when he moved to Florida. He didn't mind cause he knew they had a permanant home in my studio.

 

[vschiano2008]

3. I have had ludwigs from that Era - they aren't any better than what is out now.
Tim

dude, i pissed my pants when i read that!
i beg to differ.. i will swear by my 70's ludwig kit. 7 piece vistalite...
ok, personal opinion, its cool..

but to the dude who wants to buy his brothers kit!
i work in a music store and we have a 70's ludwig, black, maple shells (your brothers most likely are the same drums, its called Ludwig Classic Maple,
WITH the 24" bass, 13+14" toms and a 16" floor tom.
i guess you could say "oversized" but maybe not.

the kit is selling for $950. we also have a ludwig maple, with a natural finish, its a 3 piece, sizes 22", 13" 16'. thats $800.

send me a message if you're interested.
good luck.

 

[apl]

He is 45 and never plays them anymore. They are circa 77', 78' black ludwig's with zildjian cymbals from that era. The bass is oversized at 24". I don't know what model they are.

Surely you have some dirt with which to blackmail him.

 

[Tim Brown]

dude, i pissed my pants when i read that!
i beg to differ.. i will swear by my 70's ludwig kit. 7 piece vistalite...
ok, personal opinion, its cool..

I've owned 5 Ludwig kits down through the years, and I played a 1977 Vistalite Double Bass Kit for years.
The Vistalites CAN sound decent, but the bearing edges are inconsistent, and round, rather than sharp - so they don't deliver a crisp attack. The big myth about the Vistalites is that Bonham recorded with them - he didn't. He used a Green Sparkle Kit to record with. The only record that has the Vistalites on it from Zep, is "the song remains the same", and I think the drumsound on that is kind of sucking. I've gotten much better drumsounds out of my old vistalite kit - but I also recut the bearing edges on them using a file wet-dry paper. It's definitely not something I'd suggest if you haven't been building and repairing drums for some time; I bought cracked vistalite snares to practice on.

Ludwigs use of "mixed" Maple shells is no big deal to me-they've used mixed woods for years. I have an all Maple kit that I built, but to be honest - I was after Stainless Steel Shells for the kit - and didn't come across Ronn Dunnett's drums until after I had already ordered my kit - otherwise I'd be playing either Stainless Steel or Titanium shells.
I prefer a brighter sound than most people, so when I built my kit - I coated the inside of the shell with a couple of layers of polyureathane, and sanded them between coatings - that gave them a hard reflective surface inside the drum, so they are really bright and cutting. Combine that with the sharp bearing edges, and it's almost like a metal shell.


A friend of a friend (I don't really know the guy but I've met him a few times) has one of the new Ludwig kits, and it's one of the best sounding kits out there. He's a KISS freak, and always played Ludwig - so he got a KISS Sized Ludwig Kit about 4 years ago (Or just think an 80's Iron Maiden sized kit) in Champagne Sparkle. The bearing edges are sharper/cleaner now, which will give you a crisp or clear attack and tone.




Tim