MXL V-67G VS Studio projects C1 FINAL ROUND

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fresh, just wanted to give you a head's up that my Peavey 520i is also up for sale at e-bay too. Most singers shuld sound fine with it, but I have a bit of a sibilance issue that bugged my fussy ears.
FWIW, the Shure Beta's REALLY don't work anywhere near as this one, and they're highly regarded for vocals also.

Chris
 
All about my vocal chain now

chessrock said:
I don't think it would make a whole lot of difference. Just get the best you can afford. I'd probably look at a better mic before I worried about shelling out that kind of scratch on a mic pre . . . but that's just me.


Hey Chess, I been reading through some of the old and newer posts and you seem to be stuck on the SM-7 for rap. I also found this post where you listened to the track and suggested I skip the micpre and go for a better mic. Im willing to do either or both, but to give you an idea as to what im looking for, I was listening to JayZ's new Black Album as well as Gunit and man those vox never give. No matter where they are with the track, their vox just stand out or better yet they just cut through the mix so well. This is what I want. I have no idead as to what vocal chain they used. Maybe it was just mixed that well without overlapping freqs or whatever plus a good ass vocal chain. I wish I could listen to the Sm-7, but locale permits it.

I read a lot before I make gear purchases when I cannot listen for myself. Some people's opinions catch my attention quicker than others around here. Mainly because they were right or close. Although it's all subjective,, OK , here is your budget.

$1,200.00 american bucks.

1 new mic?
1 new mic and a better pre.?
1 new pre with my current mic selection . Got a VTB-1 since then though.

etc etc

anyone else can jump in as well.

I need versitility ( with quality ) for Hip Hop and R&B for any type voice. I know some will work better than others, but as long as I am not tracking pure sh@t, I could pull out a lil EQ if need be.

Thanks
Malcolm
 
I swear to God I've seen this post about five hundred times, all from rap guys, all asking between two mics, and all putting FINAL ROUND in the title of the thread.
 
ChristopherDawn said:
I swear to God I've seen this post about five hundred times, all from rap guys, all asking between two mics, and all putting FINAL ROUND in the title of the thread.


This thread was bumped based on a question I was asking Chess. If need be, I will post the same question under a different topic, but some parts of this thread leads up to my final question. Although my question has nothing to do with the mics mentioned from the original topic.

I could buy 10 V67g's with that budget. Ill just stick with the 2 I have already.:)
 
I know, I know. the second half of the thread is a good read.

I just think it's funny that these rap guys come in here like once a month and post a 'final showdown' thread (previous ones are usually between the SM58 and SM 57) and actually think that suddenly everybody is going to 'throwdown' and get in knife fights over which is better, and in the end he'll be a better person and own his own hood.
 
Re: All about my vocal chain now

malcolm123 said:
No matter where they are with the track, their vox just stand out or better yet they just cut through the mix so well. This is what I want. I have no idead as to what vocal chain they used. Maybe it was just mixed that well without overlapping freqs or whatever plus a good ass vocal chain. I wish I could listen to the Sm-7, but locale permits it.

I understand generally what you're getting at. But keep in mind that what you're looking for isn't a whole lot different than what everyone else is looking for. And if it was as easy as buying the right mic for your home studio, then everyone would be doing it, and highly-experienced, well-trained engineers would all be out of work. It's a combination of so many factors. Mostly what you're hearing is really good EQ and compression along with accute mic and signal chain selection, which has about 75% to do with the skill of the engineer and the other 25% with the gear used.

I read a lot before I make gear purchases when I cannot listen for myself.

No offense, but I've seen that strategy work maybe 1% of the time. I post on these boards a lot, but I'll be the first to tell you not to listen to me or anyone else -- learn to hear the differences between mics yourself . . . then audition . . . then buy.

That said, I can point you in a few general directions -- like my recommendation of the SM-7 . . . which really isn't exactly going out on a limb or anything. :D I mean, if you read up on things or talk to people, you'll hear that mic brought up from time to time.

I've found it to be good for the in-your-face kind of aggressive rappers who like to swallow the mic and do their "angry ghetto man" thing. :D I don't know if that's the kind of thing you're looking to record or not . . . but I've also noticed there's more of a laid-back, breathy, smooth crooning style that's very prominent in today's pop music that's just the opposite of the angry ghetto pimp guy. For that, I'd recommend a good condenser mic about 99% of the time.

If you've got $1,000 bucks burning a hole in your pocket, I'd think along the lines of getting the best B.L.U.E. mic you can afford. I really like that company, and I think of some of their mics when I think of breathy pop vocals. The Rode NTK comes to mind in the $500 class, but that one comes with it's own querks (better have a good de-esser).

Either way, a good mic is only a very small tip of a very large ice-berg. Then you have to get in to room accoustics, EQ, compressors and compression technique . . . ideal signal routing and gain-staging . . . and it can't hurt to become intimately familiar with a good multiband compressor which could take you the better part of maybe a year and a half to learn to navigate properly.
 
back to the original question i've tested both mics side by side.

the C1 had much more low end and the V67 was much noisier

T
 
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