MXL available in Australia..........but don't get too exited.

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Guys, www.musiclab.net.au has the C1 now priced at $479 (same price as a Rode NT1000). They still show the rrp as $649 so I am unsure if the price drop is a temporary special or due to a drop in the distributors pricing.
 
The distributor is still showing $649 on their website, so who knows.

:rolleyes:
 
Australian Prices

What some of you guys have to understand is that the Oz market is sooo infantile in comparison to the rest of the world, that the importers/dealers will bend you over and screw you - no dinner, no movie, no vaseline - almost every chance they get.

Don't fall for any of the "we care about you - and we're doing our best" crap. Face the facts, the dealers are in this business to make a buck. They are not selling microphones because when they were young kids their biggest dream and goal in life was to be a salesman. Selling stuff is not their great love - although the money they make after pulling out of you is. Do you really think they come to this board because they "care" and want to listen to the concerns of the market place? Get real. They're just chasing new customers because, like I said before, the Aussie market is so small.

I learnt my lesson. I got out after 27 years and moved to the biggest recording market in the world - Europe. Over here (Germany) I can have a SP C1 delivered to my door for $177 US dollars. The console in our studio (which I bought here in Germany) cost me the equivalent of under AUD $8000. When I went back to Oz on holiday 6 months later, the price was - believe it or not - over AUD $15,000. DO NOT tell me that it cost $7000 in postage and taxes (this was even before the GST came in).

Do not believe their crap. You are consumers and have the power. If you can get a product cheaper in the USA, Europe or even Kiwiland, do it.

Adzzz

P.S. Why is it that a certain Aussie dealer on this board is openly saying they are importing Asian made mics from the USA??? That means that you are paying twice on import duties, taxes and delivery. It tells me that they are either a) passing that cost onto YOU and therefore not really caring about the Aussie customer at all... b) crap business people for making such a deal... or c) simply full of shit.

A.
 
Re: Australian Prices

Adzzz said:
I can have a SP C1 delivered to my door for $177 US dollars. Adzzz

I would like to see that receipt for $177.00 US to your door! In Germany, it sells for about 189.00 Euro before Tax and freight. We ship our goods to our UK warehouse, so we pay to get it to the UK, just like we do to the USA, and then the distributors pay to get it to them.

If you account the freight costs to your door, then you are buying the C1 for less than cost, which with all due respect, I doubt you are doing that.

I think you have taken this and blown it out of proportion a bit. There are either good distributors, or bad ones. Not everyone of them want to screw people, but they do want to make money, and are entitled to.

The key here is to get them to understand this issue so those there can start seeing better pricing parity when compared to the US and Europe. We as a manufacturer are trying to help and support our customers over there to get the proper pricing.

Like everything else, we will get it done, or be forced to make changes to get it done, but no matter what, there are costs involved in getting the goods to them. :)
 
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alanhyatt said:
I would like to see that receipt for $177.00 US to your door! In Germany, it sells for about 189.00 Euro before Tax and freight. We ship our goods to our UK warehouse, so we pay to get it to the UK, just like we do to the USA, and then the distributors pay to get it to them.

Well my friend, I'm not too sure if your German's up to scratch but you may get quite a shock when you call the guys from www.digitalaudioservice.de - you can check it out for yourself.

I think you have taken this and blown it out of proportion a bit. There are either good distributors, or bad ones. Not everyone of them want to screw people, but they do want to make money, and are entitled to.

The key here is to get them to understand this issue so those there can start seeing better pricing parity when compared to the US and Europe. We as a manufacturer are trying to help and support our customers over there to get the proper pricing.

Like everything else, we will get it done, or be forced to make changes to get it done, but no matter what, there are costs involved in getting the goods to them. :)

Look mate, no offence to you on a personal level, but professionally speaking, this is another typical response from someone who spends their waking hours trying to sell a product. If you'd care to read my post again, you'll see that I clearly stated I was referring to Australian dealers, not dealers from the US or Europe. I've had close to 30 years experience in the market. How many long years have you personally spent as a pro-audio consumer living in Australia? Any? None? Then I hardly think you're qualified to pass judgement on the situation there, as it is. Unfortunately, you obviously have no idea how bad it really is.

As far your statement "the key is to get them to understand the issue...etc, etc" goes, that's just new-age marketing crap for "our hands are basically tied, the Aussie dealers can literally sell products for the price the choose because the market is so small and that's a fact that won't be changing for the next 100 years or so." The only "key issue" that truly concerns them is their profit. If you try and pressure the dealers too much, they'll drop your products, like Mercenary did with Neumann. They'd much prefer to sell RODE mics anyway because the profit margin is greater. I have no qualms about dealers making a fair profit as they're entitled to. I have a problem with their lack of professionalism in not seeking the best alternative for their customers. I have the same disappointment with many manufacturers.

I totally understand that as a manufacturer, there are costs involved in getting the product from the drawing board all the way to the store shelves. This I fully accept. However, if you were honestly "trying to help our customers over there to get the proper pricing" then why aren't you shipping direct from manufacturer to Oz? Why are Australian dealers getting an Asian made mic from the States? Shipping a product that's manufactured on Australia's doorstep to the other side of the world, just so the dealers can order it to be shipped all the way back again, is just plain useless. I do not believe you to be so niaive as to think that the extra cost isn't passed onto the consumer in the end. This is hardly what I'd consider to be helping your Aussie customers pay a fair price.

This is just one small example. The $7000 mark-up on the studio console was another. These situations will continue so long as the majority of manufacturers take the attitude of "but the market's so small there, so....who gives a f*ck, right?!?"

Considering all of the above, NO, I do not think I have "taken this and blown it out of proportion a bit". What's going on here is wrong. Put yourself in the shoes of an Aussie buyer of the C1 for example, and ask yourself, how would you feel?

Buttslammed...

Adzzz
 
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Adzzz said:
Well my friend, I'm not too sure if your German's up to scratch but you may get quite a shock when you call the guys from www.digitalaudioservice.de - you can check it out for yourself.

Considering all of the above, NO, I do not think I have "taken this and blown it out of proportion a bit". What's going on here is wrong. Put yourself in the shoes of an Aussie buyer of the C1 for example, and ask yourself, how would you feel?

Buttslammed...

Adzzz

There are no references on the web site that DAS is selling it for anything near that price. In addition, I guess you did not understand that I was referring to the distributor. Without his assistance, you cant get the products into an Aussie's hands for a reasonable price.

My point was if the distributor is looking to gain more profit then he should, then the dealers price will be higher simply based on that. For someone who seems to know so much about the marking there, why don't you open a store?

I am at least trying to assist the customers in getting my goods on a price parity level over there. Shipping only accounts for a few dollars when shipping in bulk, so that is not the problem. The problem is deeper than that. I am putting myself in the Aussie's shoes which is why I have trying to do something about it. I don't see any other manufacturer trying to do anything.

I do give a fuck and do not want to see the profits eaten up by our distributors and dealers just to screw the Aussie customer. I am sure I can find a decent dealer who is willing to make a 30% Margin to sell a fuck load of mics, no matter where they come from.

Hell, I can open an office there myself if I choose to. I have a guy who would run it for me right now, but I am trying to make it work with the current people. Like I said, if it does not work, then we change.
 
Whoa......................................ROFLMGDFAO.

Alan,

Adzzz has just summed it up beautifully.................he has not really blown it out of proportion. He has just told it pretty well how it is in plain langauge...................maybe I should have been more direct about things in past communications, but I chose to be "diplomatic" and to avoid treading on toes.

In light of that I will say this openly, your distributor did himself no favours in his comments here.........he would have been better off staying out of this thread. There has been more than enough background communication (PM's and emails) floating around between some people out here to back that comment up.

:cool:
 
Ausrock,

This is all good, but have the prices come down?
 
Alan,

As of 12 hours ago, there was a post here saying that one retailer had the C1 on a "special" price much below previous pricing, BUT that they still showed Recommended Retail (List) unchanged from before. Also FEA still had no changes to pricing on their website.

So at this stage I frankly don't know what is happening.

:cool:
 
REVISION:

The advertised special price is $479 Aust., which is considerably lower than that dealers normal price. However, considering some people have in the past picked up C1's for close to $500 Aust., that special price isn't really that much of an improvement.

It is still realistic for anyone who cares to make the effort to import from O/seas and probably save another $100Aust., ..and that figure would include express style postage.

As I said, I honestly have no idea what is going to happen here, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

Regards,

:cool:
 
Well, it sounds like... Alan, sooner or later is going to take care of it one way or another. I have faith in Alan keeping his word, so give him a little more time, by hanging in there with him. Todays Date: 4-17-03. :)
 
The Dutch SP distributor/dealer:

C1 305 euro
C3 480 euro
C4 575 euro
T3 765 euro
B1 100 euro
B3 200 euro
TB1 400 euro
VTB1 230 euro

Prices are ex 19% BTW (= VAT)

www.helios.nl

MXL mics come from another distributer who sent me a V77 and a V69 (both tubes)

I like the V77 most but the price is 669 euro. I've seen it on an American site for $ 229.95

1 Euro is $1.08
 
Han, then your paying about $130 more than the US for a C1... no?
 
DJL,

I have faith in Alan's desire to sort this out...........that has never been an issue.

I just have reservations about "things" on this side of the pond.



:cool:
 
DJL said:
Han, then your paying about $130 more than the US for a C1... no?

Exactly! And recently it went from 369 euro to 305 euro.
The same about the MXL mics, two times the USA price.

I spoke the dealer yesterday (he's a nice guy) and told him about the USA prices. He said he's going to make me an offer.

Mmmmmm......... I'm very curious.
 
ausrock, I understand what your saying my friend. We need a bridge across the pond. :)

Han, I'm curious also, please let me know what happens.
 
I want to add that I too appreciate Alan's efforts in getting Australian prices of studio projects gear down to more competitive levels. Lets see what happens.
 
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