In the live gigs...it sounded just as full.
If I recall, Johnny liked using a phase shifter pedal (or flanger) on stuff, which could fatten things up...but I don't hear it on this recording.
Almost all Zeppelin is 3 piece, too. They do have some bigger productions with Mellotrons and shit. but a lot of it is just the 3 musicians and Plant.Sweet, that's exactly what I need -- arranging and mixing for 3 piece. Almost all my favorite bands are 3 pieces, so I think I lean toward sparseness, and when mixing I'm realizing it's tricky. I'll study my favorite bands' recordings some more, but I love music, in general, and open minded to all styles...so if anyone thinks of more sparse 3 piece albums like this Winter's one please post it.
Almost all Zeppelin is 3 piece, too. They do have some bigger productions with Mellotrons and shit. but a lot of it is just the 3 musicians and Plant.
Here is an example. During the verses it's only one guitar with the Ping-Pong delay....
I recently did a track and panned like 40% L and then put delay on it, and I was fairly happy with it, but something seemed out of balance still, like my right ear was straining a bit to hear the fainter guitar.
Don't rule out the option Farview gave you. Record twice. It's still one guitar part, but in true stereo.
Rami, you're a drummer, right? Can you explain what's going on in Happy Jack? I love that feel whatever it is.
On that song, the intro and choruses have a second guitar playing in there. During the verse, it's just one guitar.Chili, is the guitar center during those chorus?
That sounds bigger for sure.
I recently did a track and panned like 40% L and then put delay on it, and I was fairly happy with it, but something seemed out of balance still, like my right ear was straining a bit to hear the fainter guitar. I think I should have made the OH mono and panned it with the snare to the right.
This is all very helpful. Sorry if I'm thinking out loud and babbling at this point.
Don't rule out the option Farview gave you. Record twice. It's still one guitar part, but in true stereo.
Record twice. It's still one guitar part, but in true stereo.
Yeah, as soon as I typed "True Stereo", I said to myself "I got a baaaaad feeling about this".Well it's not true...oh, it's OK, I know what you're saying.
That said...I can't say enough nice things about the Brainworx Stereomaker plug I mentioned earlier...I mean, it really does a fantastic stereo that doesn't have any of that wishy/phasy fake stereo vibe, so in a pinch...if you can't do another guitar track...or some actual stereo mic recording...it can add that flavor for you with a couple of clicks.
It's in 5/4 at times, and 4/4 most of the other times, and it's pretty typical Keith Moon, which means it's awesome.Rami, you're a drummer, right? Can you explain what's going on in Happy Jack? I love that feel whatever it is.
It's in 5/4 at times, and 4/4 most of the other times, and it's pretty typical Keith Moon, which means it's awesome.
Sweet, thanks.
Yeah it feels totally bizarre/awesome, so it must be the back and forth between 5/4 and 4/4.
For a three piece, guitar bass drums, I like to use mulitple mics.
Guitar usually has a room mic as well as a direct mic.
Direct is panned off center with the room mic panned hard opposite the direct mic. It fills out the mix nicely.
Often times I'll record the band live so you have the guitar in the drum overheads too.
With this technique you'll have at least 4 mics capturing one source point with all the mics giving it a different flavor.
It may or may not work for your tastes, but I've had countless people loving my guitar tones. The most important of which are the people who are being recorded.