Mixing Fruity Loops synth with real recording?

[VampiricYouth]

I've been doing a lot of home recording with Adobe Audition and my Guitar, I usually program some drums in FL, export them, bring them into Audition and record my guiar over that which sounds great, but what do I do when I want to add some Absynth or Sytrus synth and pad stuff over that? Do I do each of those in FL "blindly" (without having the live stuff playing that I can record over) and then bring those into Audition as well, or do I first export the Audition stuff into a WAV, bring that into FL, do the synth stuff over that while it's playing (live record) and than export that out again as another final mix?

Which method would you use?

 

[ssscientist]

Neither. FL sucks for importing passages longer than just a few bars.

Hey, wait a minute. I was sitting here considering how best to advise you and it stuck me - why do you have Absynth and Sytrus and no host program?

If you use cracked software, don't come here for help. Go back to the pirate site that you found it on and see if they can help you.

 

[VampiricYouth]

Fruity Loops comes with Styrus and I'm just using the Absynth 3 30 day trial

 

[ssscientist]

Ah.

There's my answer.

In that case, to continue where I left off, FL sucks for importing passages longer than just a few bars.

Try this. It's a freeware audio multitrack/edting software called Audacity which may or may not help you with your current dillema but is a good thing to have around.

Or download the Tracktion demo here. It's VSTi compatable so the Absynth plugin should drop right in. Then all you need to do is import the rendered wav's into Tracktion, add whatever you like and export it as a wav file. There is a noise added to the Tracktion demo but if you like it as much as I do you can buy a copy here. The copy you buy from zzzounds comes with tons of plugins, both VST effects and VSTi's and for the money it's the best deal on the music software market right now --- IMHO, of course.

 

[VampiricYouth]

Well, I do have Adobe Audition (Yes..A legal copy ) Basically what I need is a way to hear the already-recorded music playing while I record synth so I can use it as a cue. I could always just press Play in Audition and then record in FL but it would be nice if I could see the waveform as well. Why is FL bad at importing passages?

 

[ssscientist]

FL started out as a piece of software that was very good at doing just as you're doing - making and exporting drum loops. Then they tried to add audio recording capability and wound up complicating that part of the program so much as to be almost unusable. Fortunately it's still a very good software drum machine with the ability to communicate with other programs thru exporting wav files --- as you have discovered. If you're asking for the tech stuff on why FL is bad I'm not a programmer, but as a computer-oriented musician I know that I spent a few frustrating days when they first came out with the audio stuff on FL trying to get it to do what it says it will.

Try the two suggestions I offered - I think I understand quite well what you want to do...

 

[VampiricYouth]

Thanks again for your help!

What differences does Audacity have over Audition though that would make it more suitable than Audition?

 

[edzo]

FL started out as a piece of software that was very good at doing just as you're doing - making and exporting drum loops. Then they tried to add audio recording capability and wound up complicating that part of the program so much as to be almost unusable. Fortunately it's still a very good software drum machine with the ability to communicate with other programs thru exporting wav files --- as you have discovered. If you're asking for the tech stuff on why FL is bad I'm not a programmer, but as a computer-oriented musician I know that I spent a few frustrating days when they first came out with the audio stuff on FL trying to get it to do what it says it will.

Try the two suggestions I offered - I think I understand quite well what you want to do...

this is not a fair assesment of fl-studio capabilities.
fruity 5.0.2 is the current version, and it is MUCH more than a...drum machine. and you can pile wav's into it all day. no need to export out of fruity for anything. it does it all.

it has grown up from whatever version you are describing. I use it for full production and finalization [before exporting to acid to master and build a cd]

I can master with fruity but if I did that I would keep adding riffs and never finish. by exporting to acid it is telling me that I now have to stop and finish it up...I do not export to acid because fruity is weak in some way...I am the one who..if I stayed using fruity, all my tunes would be 7 hours long !




you need a fast machine to unlock the power of fruity studio so you can see how it performs jammed with fx and wavs and samples and generators, under midi control playing live. it is the shiznit. I do suggest pentium 4 3.4 ghz 800mhz fsb, and a gig of ram and a big video card so there is zero delay and you can crank the asio latency down to 1ms.

also a decent firewire soundboard and controller.

 

[ssscientist]

you need a fast machine to unlock the power of fruity studio so you can see how it performs jammed with fx and wavs and samples and generators, under midi control playing live. it is the shiznit. I do suggest pentium 4 3.4 ghz 800mhz fsb, and a gig of ram and a big video card so there is zero delay and you can crank the asio latency down to 1ms. also a decent firewire soundboard and controller.

Whew!

You can afford all that and still love 'fruity'? You should be doing ads for them! IMHO, there are better and easier audio/midi sequencers out there but I respect anyone with such devotion to a particular app that they'll put all that money and time into learning it!

 

[Lotus]

this is not a fair assesment of fl-studio capabilities.
fruity 5.0.2 is the current version, and it is MUCH more than a...drum machine. and you can pile wav's into it all day. no need to export out of fruity for anything. it does it all.

it has grown up from whatever version you are describing. I use it for full production and finalization [before exporting to acid to master and build a cd]

I can master with fruity but if I did that I would keep adding riffs and never finish. by exporting to acid it is telling me that I now have to stop and finish it up...I do not export to acid because fruity is weak in some way...I am the one who..if I stayed using fruity, all my tunes would be 7 hours long !

you need a fast machine to unlock the power of fruity studio so you can see how it performs jammed with fx and wavs and samples and generators, under midi control playing live. it is the shiznit. I do suggest pentium 4 3.4 ghz 800mhz fsb, and a gig of ram and a big video card so there is zero delay and you can crank the asio latency down to 1ms.

also a decent firewire soundboard and controller.

I agree... I am using FL Studio 5 and at the moment am working on a 3-track hip-hop demo for a friend...I have done everything in fl studio except for maybe use Audacity to trim the ends of the audio files and to normalize (which can also be done in FL)...i am using what would be considered a fairly standard PC with a lot of free VST plugs as well as the built in ones of course...(athlon 3000+, 512 ram, Emu 0404 soundcard)..considering how cheap the FL package is I am very surprised and pleased with this software..
I have also used it for techno/trance music and it performs well with a lot of VST plugs and FX running, provided you have the machine for it..