mixing bassoons

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I recorded two basson duet songs for a friend, one of them has two bassoons and the other has 4. any suggestions on mixing them?
 
Newbie dude said:
I recorded two basson duet songs for a friend, one of them has two bassoons and the other has 4. any suggestions on mixing them?
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Use a de-esser and make them sound like baboons? :)
 
masteringhouse said:
Use a de-esser and make them sound like baboons? :)
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Or, knock off the oons and crank up the "bass". ;)

I recorded two basson duet songs for a friend, one of them has two bassoons and the other has 4. any suggestions on mixing them?
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Not quite sure what you are asking. Duets are for 2 people, what do 6 bassoons have to do with it?? :confused:
 
okay, i recorded two songs.

the first one is a duet consisting of two bassoons.

the second song is a bassoon quartet.[ 4 bassoons.]
 
Why the hell would anybody write a bassoon quartet????????

Newbie dude said:
okay, i recorded two songs.

the first one is a duet consisting of two bassoons.

the second song is a bassoon quartet.[ 4 bassoons.]
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Mix them to the equal volume, then, I would guess, the dynamics they did would take care of the rest. Or maybe not...I'm with fraser on this one.
 
Ditch the project altogether.

The last thing this world needs is one more bassoon outfit! :p
 
ez_willis said:
Ditch the project altogether.

The last thing this world needs is one more bassoon outfit! :p
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I have heard some of the worlds most accomplished bassoonists. Indeed, ditch the project, they cant make it sound good either. ;)
 
DavidK said:
I have heard some of the worlds most accomplished bassoonists. Indeed, ditch the project, they cant make it sound good either. ;)
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Yeah, but YOU try getting all four of them in the same room :D
 
Ok, so far this thread has been less than helpful (though pretty funny).

Though I've yet to record bassoons in particular I'd have to say that when recording any acoustic instrument the recording process takes precedence over the mixing process. Most things that you do further down the chain just have a tendency of making the recording less "organic", ruining the gentle balance between the fundamentals and overtones of an instrument. When using an EQ in mixing acoustic instruments it's usually used to "equalize" in the original sense of the word, i.e. to equalize the frequency distortions caused by microphones, preamps, etc. On the other hand EQ and compression in Pop recordings are often used to "hype" the sound, making it larger than life.

Assuming that the recording was done well, I would suggest that you do as little as possible when mixing it.
 
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masteringhouse said:
Assuming that the recording was done well, I would suggest that you do as little as possible when mixing it.
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Agreed, There is almost no "mixing" in classical music. The players mix themselves. It's all about mic placement, the right mics, signal chain etc. There may be extensive "editing" i.e. splicing several perfomances together, but mixing basically applies to volume levels, panning, etc., and that is rarely done. Historically, classical has been recorded on a 2-track. If something like an 8 track Tascam was used, it was to try out different mics. "Mixing" is up to the players.
 
DavidK said:
Agreed, There is almost no "mixing" in classical music. The players mix themselves. It's all about mic placement, the right mics, signal chain etc. There may be extensive "editing" i.e. splicing several perfomances together, but mixing basically applies to volume levels, panning, etc., and that is rarely done. Historically, classical has been recorded on a 2-track. If something like an 8 track Tascam was used, it was to try out different mics. "Mixing" is up to the players.
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That's basically what I said about bringing them up hte same amount and letting their dynamics take over...I win first. :D
 
You might try looking here . I sent them a note and asked if they could post a video on mixing bassoons, hopefully they will get one posted soon. :D
 
Cult_Status02 said:
That's basically what I said about bringing them up hte same amount and letting their dynamics take over...I win first. :D
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But................ :D ,

Ideally, there should be nothing to "bring up". Most classical recordings of a chamber group would be two well-placed mics and a guy who hits "record" :D . That's about it, at least for the majority of the purist classical recordings.

If it is in fact recorded on 4 mics (in the quartet), I suppose you could take a crack at automating the hell out of the mix, especially if it isnt an experienced group or a great overall setup. Bring up the melody, bring down the inner voices, etc. It would take a lot of knowledge of the score to do this.
 
finally, some help. Alright. Good to hear. But how would you guys pan the bassoons? Right now I have them panned a if they were electric guitars. Hard left and Hard Right.





But, yeah, I agree. Who the hell would want to write a bassoon quartet?
 
Newbie dude said:
finally, some help. Alright. Good to hear. But how would you guys pan the bassoons? Right now I have them panned a if they were electric guitars. Hard left and Hard Right.





But, yeah, I agree. Who the hell would want to write a bassoon quartet?
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As usual, just cause you can doesn't mean it's a good idea :D

I would pan them as if I were watching them on stage.
 
How did you record them?

If you used a stereo pair, try hard right and left, if it was 4 individual mics, I'd try panning the 4 how you watched them starting at maybe 75%-50%, I don't know if a much wider pan would sound good. Try 'em out :)
 
Who was it that said.....it's an ill wind that nobody blows any good. ???????

Get the cash before you let 'em hear the mix.




chazba
 
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