Mix it - Burning Witches (metal/crossover) - Mix it

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The tracks are .wav and included as part of a Reaper project template and compressed in a .rar file.
So if you use Reaper just extract and load the template.
For every other DAW you would extract and then add the individual tracks to your project.
All tracks are all aligned, named appropriately and should be easily understood.

Please share your mixes by posting here or by pm.

Link to download

Burning Witches - Google Drive

drive.google.com drive.google.com

My current mix :

 
BCF1 said:
The tracks are .wav and included as part of a Reaper project template and compressed in a .rar file.
So if you use Reaper just extract and load the template.
For every other DAW you would extract and then add the individual tracks to your project.
All tracks are all aligned, named appropriately and should be easily understood.

Please share your mixes by posting here or by pm.
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Not a lot of room to mix anything- the Dynamics are what they are - none the less I changed somethings (Guitars EQ/Compression) - I don’t know - its not really my forte'

- what do you think?
 
BCF1 said:
The tracks are .wav and included as part of a Reaper project template and compressed in a .rar file.
So if you use Reaper just extract and load the template.
For every other DAW you would extract and then add the individual tracks to your project.
All tracks are all aligned, named appropriately and should be easily understood.

Please share your mixes by posting here or by pm.

Link to download

Burning Witches - Google Drive

drive.google.com drive.google.com

My current mix :

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I think your tone is close and just needs to be tweaked. Could you post a WAV that is un-processed? I'd like to do a master and see if I can bring out all of the detail and punch of the track while keeping it edgy

#edit ... now that I've downloaded, I see that this is a stem mastering situation.
 
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RedStone said:
I think your tone is close and just needs to be tweaked. Could you post a WAV that is un-processed? I'd like to do a master and see if I can bring out all of the detail and punch of the track while keeping it edgy

#edit ... now that I've downloaded, I see that this is a stem mastering situation.
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I appreciate you guys , Papanate, HumanPlanet, RedStone checking this out and giving it a bit o time. Thank you

I'm currently away from home but I can provide raw di tracks, dry unprocessed tracks, the whole package, uploaded early next week.. I'll update with new link once completed. Thanks again !
 
BCF1 said:
I appreciate you guys , Papanate, HumanPlanet, RedStone checking this out and giving it a bit o time. Thank you

I'm currently away from home but I can provide raw di tracks, dry unprocessed tracks, the whole package, uploaded early next week.. I'll update with new link once completed. Thanks again !
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I don't think there's much of a need to do a remix. The stems were good quality. Here's what I came up with as a first master.
  • I referenced against some Underoath as the drum tones were similar.
  • I tried to keep the crispiness of the original mix, but tamed it and did some work on the midrange and low end to help the mix translate onto little speakers.
  • the vocals might be a bit buried for some tastes, so I could bring them up a little
  • The mix could be darkened more, but it will be a matter of taste
  • Any distortion in the mix is on purpose to give it a bit more punch as the mix overall was somewhat clean to begin with
I left you a 48khz file in case you want to use it, or let me know if you hear anything you don't like or would like to hear different. If/when you do like it, I appreciate if you think of me for mastering future projects or giving a recommend if it comes up :)

 
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RedStone said:
I don't think there's much of a need to do a remix. The stems were good quality. Here's what I came up with as a first master.
  • I referenced against some Underoath as the drum tones were similar.
  • I tried to keep the crispiness of the original mix, but tamed it and did some work on the midrange and low end to help the mix translate onto little speakers.
  • the vocals might be a bit buried for some tastes, so I could bring them up a little
  • The mix could be darkened more, but it will be a matter of taste
  • Any distortion in the mix is on purpose to give it a bit more punch as the mix overall was somewhat clean to begin with
I left you a 48khz file in case you want to use it, or let me know if you hear anything you don't like or would like to hear different. If/when you do like it, I appreciate if you think of me for mastering future projects or giving a recommend if it comes up :)

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Sounds real good, as you said it's a stylistic choice regarding vocal level in the mix. I found the vocals to be a bit low in this mix. Which is kinda funny because for a long time the criticism I recieved most was my vocals were to low. So it's a choice I usually make also. Nice job though and thank you
 
Papanate said:
Not a lot of room to mix anything- the Dynamics are what they are - none the less I changed somethings (Guitars EQ/Compression) - I don’t know - its not really my forte'
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- what do you think?
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Just by listening to your track it sounds like a thrown together song rather than a produced composition. But a lot of these song lack production now these days. And even ones that get produced are not that great. Because they sound like a Terry Date flat mix. Which quite frankly, I think he forgot what the pan knob is for.

I really don't why people think they are going to get a powerful track with hot levels. Its just like those newbies thinking you are going to get a mix as loud as a cd master.
 
drtechno said:
Just by listening to your track it sounds like a thrown together song rather than a produced composition. But a lot of these song lack production now these days. And even ones that get produced are not that great. Because they sound like a Terry Date flat mix. Which quite frankly, I think he forgot what the pan knob is for.

I really don't why people think they are going to get a powerful track with hot levels. Its just like those newbies thinking you are going to get a mix as loud as a cd master.
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I agree that this tune isn't sophisticated in it's composition and I agree it sounds thrown together. As both points are true and correct.
This came into existence after a hard drive upgrade required a fresh operating system install followed by DAW and associated software/plugins etc.
Not a thought out comp but the result of testing the freshly installed plugins. SD3, random amp sims, play a bit, change tempo, play a bit more. At some point I decided see if I could come up with a way to connect these random bits together. A day later my daughter and her friend were watching a recent remake of Hansel and Gretel, the witches were screaming, burning and dying. Inspiring stuff.
Anyway, the tracks were not recorded excessively hot, I think they came in RMSing somewhere in the -19 to -16 dBFS range avg.
The testing of plugins continued. I committed to the amp sim tones I had and rendered it all out to five(5) stems. I had never used Izotope Neutron before and didn't have time to really get in to it. As a experiment I put an instance of Neutron 3 on each of the 5 tracks, plus the master then let the AI do it's thing. Only did minor eq tweaks on guitars in the hi mids and highs, same on the master, rolled off some high end. Not my normal approach but was curious to hear what the AI would do. The result was the mix I posted. Thank you for commenting !!
 
BCF1 said:
I agree that this tune isn't sophisticated in it's composition and I agree it sounds thrown together. As both points are true and correct.
This came into existence after a hard drive upgrade required a fresh operating system install followed by DAW and associated software/plugins etc.
Not a thought out comp but the result of testing the freshly installed plugins. SD3, random amp sims, play a bit, change tempo, play a bit more. At some point I decided see if I could come up with a way to connect these random bits together. A day later my daughter and her friend were watching a recent remake of Hansel and Gretel, the witches were screaming, burning and dying. Inspiring stuff.
Anyway, the tracks were not recorded excessively hot, I think they came in RMSing somewhere in the -19 to -16 dBFS range avg.
The testing of plugins continued. I committed to the amp sim tones I had and rendered it all out to five(5) stems. I had never used Izotope Neutron before and didn't have time to really get in to it. As a experiment I put an instance of Neutron 3 on each of the 5 tracks, plus the master then let the AI do it's thing. Only did minor eq tweaks on guitars in the hi mids and highs, same on the master, rolled off some high end. Not my normal approach but was curious to hear what the AI would do. The result was the mix I posted. Thank you for commenting !!
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Its not bad, it just needs some "zaz" what I used to say. Which means it needs to take the listener on the adventure and It takes some time with production and trail and error.

Like the intro could be a little bit more dramatic. First time I heard something like this was when I visited a long gone (RIP) friend that produced the Astrocreep album for an artist named Rob Zombie.

The guitars isn't too bad, nor drums or anything, it just lacks subtle movement in the song. Which is ok for some things, but this, it could be something used to enhance the dramatic effect.

I'll try to make the time and mess with your stems you uploaded, and show you what I mean about movement and dramatic unfolding of the song.
 
drtechno said:
Its not bad, it just needs some "zaz" what I used to say. Which means it needs to take the listener on the adventure and It takes some time with production and trail and error.

Like the intro could be a little bit more dramatic. First time I heard something like this was when I visited a long gone (RIP) friend that produced the Astrocreep album for an artist named Rob Zombie.

The guitars isn't too bad, nor drums or anything, it just lacks subtle movement in the song. Which is ok for some things, but this, it could be something used to enhance the dramatic effect.

I'll try to make the time and mess with your stems you uploaded, and show you what I mean about movement and dramatic unfolding of the song.
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That would be greatly appreciated ! Thx
 
Yo!

I messed around with it for about 20 minutes. Sources were already sounding great so i didn't want to do too much to them.

In any case, here's my shenanigans!

Great playing, guys!

Later Edit:

Oh well, couldn't help myself and i messed with it a little more. Added a V2 here.

Thanks for the stems!
 

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SLCicu said:
Yo!

I messed around with it for about 20 minutes. Sources were already sounding great so i didn't want to do too much to them.

In any case, here's my shenanigans!

Great playing, guys!

Later Edit:

Oh well, couldn't help myself and i messed with it a little more. Added a V2 here.

Thanks for the stems!
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Right on ! Look forward to listening asap. I'll get back to you.
Thank you !
 
BCF1 said:
Right on ! Look forward to listening asap. I'll get back to you.
Thank you !
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Hey again,

Any chance we can get the raw multi tracks for this ? Would like to practice some more and stems are a little limiting.

Cheers!
 
SLCicu said:
Hey again,

Any chance we can get the raw multi tracks for this ? Would like to practice some more and stems are a little limiting.

Cheers!
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Sure. I'll try and get it uploaded over the weekend and post a link.
 
hello! today I became a member and I saw the song and I decided to mix it, here I leave my mix
 

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