Mix check - We Can Do Anything

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Thanks to Greg for some good suggestions we went back and worked some more on this song. Got a chance to record some additional tracks today, plus I got to play around with my birthday/Xmas present (Sonar X1). It's got a few more things compared to Sonar 6.0... I'm hoping to get some feedback from you guys to see if I'm headed in the right direction now.... :D:D:D:D:D
 
I haven't heard the first version, but it doesn't sound too bad, however the vocal is too prominent. It sounds like it's sitting on top of your track. I'd boost the background vocals, they sounded pretty good to me. The rhythm section is to far in the background IMO. I'd bring everything up slightly except the vocal and then put the drums and guitars through a reverb bus. Don't go crazy with the reverb, but give the drums and guitars more stereo space. I'd look into cutting some frequencies from the lead vocal too. I'm guessing that's why the vocal isn't sitting in the mix. I can't hear exactly where, but experiment with cutting some of the lower mids. I hope that helped.

Also you may not know, if you bought Sonar X1 recently, I believe you can upgrade to X2 for free. Anyway keep working on the song, I know trying to fix up a song as a huge annoyance, but I think you could have a nice song here.
 
Just uploaded a revised mix taking into consideration your recommendations Chandler. Plus I did some adjustments to the delay at the request of Mike (co-writer).
 
Like your vocals a lot. What hit me is the incredible amount of 1/4 note triplets played, even in the solo.

To me, this song needs some New York Slick polish added to it to make it come alive. Your vocals stand out so much more than the music... which is a good problem. I'm just hearing a great singer and the backing music is just too simple and plain to support it. The vocals don't even have any fancy processing on them... killer verb, etc... and they still sound good. But the drums are very mono, the guitars sound like they are just direct in and no character. The bass fills its' function, but I'm imagining if it was really nice sounding bass, what that would do. Although the gtrs are panned, they seem 10:2 versus harder panning, which would probably be weird. That scrunches up the mix towards more mono as well.
As some suggestions, I might suggest better stereo on the drums and a couple of drum fills wouldn't hurt. Put them in a room too. The BG vocals, quadruple the quanity and do the Eagles stereo spread on them. Stereo-ize the rhy gtr and the lead gtr needs some identitiy, either with a better sound or subtle effects and grit. I DO hear some reverb and I know the song would be really dry without it....but a nice, really wide stereo verb this is noticed on tails, would be good. These are my ideas, and realize many would disagree. Your vocals are unque like Clapton's which I'm sure you're tired of hearing, but different enough to really be your own. They have big league capability and to ME really shows on your stuff... just waiting on the music to catch up, then the singing can jump forward ahead too.
 
btw, I'm on 7.02PE, waiting on the new DAW before I jump to X2. Interested on how it's running for you... and Hap B-day!
 
The guitars and vocal sound like they're in a different space - the guitars are upfront, the vocal's further back. You could cut the verb on the vocal, or add space to the guitars. I'd start with adding verb to the guitars, cuz the vocal sounds about right to me with the space it's got on it now.

Like the sound on the guitar in the solo. Nice.
 
imho, the main rh guitar (strumming) needs a little more air, and needs to sit back in the mix just a bit, I think it would open up the mix more and allow the bass to come through.

I love the song though. Nice laid back vocals very smooth
 
imho, the main rh guitar (strumming) needs a little more air, and needs to sit back in the mix just a bit, I think it would open up the mix more and allow the bass to come through.

I love the song though. Nice laid back vocals very smooth

I agree with all of this. The strummed guitar just doesn't sit in the mix for me and sounds to DI'd. Other than that, I think yer all good ido :)
 
You've gotten a lot of contradictory replies. I don't agree with any of it. :laughings:

I like the subdued, minimal quality to this mix and it's leaps and bounds better than the last. Well I do agree with one comment - make the rhythm guitars wider. They're a little too centered for me. Otherwise I like it. The vocal in the mix are way better than last time.
 
Thanks for the comments Greg, robgreen, toastedgoat, dobro and mixmkr. There's some good mixing advice in each post. It's going to take us some time to go through each and see what we can do. Busy at work (10-12 hr days) lately but hope to get more into this on the weekend - they don't pay me overtime anymore lol...
 
I dig it. I agree with the main vox comment though - great voice but overpowering a really nice foundation that deserves to be heard.
 
Thanks trimonious - we haven't done anything to this lately as we've been busy with other tunes/work etc. I'll try to get together with Mike and work on this on the weekend.

Mike pans guitar and bass l/r for clarity. I'd like to try and spread the rhythm guitar across the spectrum using a < 30ms delay panned hard right. Just need to keep the bass definition if we can... And we can adjust the vocals....
 
That's different.
Reminds me of a less frenetic Last of the Shadow Puppets song.
There's a danger of dropping some clarity in the bass but try the idea you mentioned gerry.
One of the latter backing vocal bits needs a little boost as it comes across as hesitant at is present volume.
 
Personally i like this just the way it is. Everything is clear and present and i am not really struggling to hear any one thing in particular? It's pretty unique. Great lyrics too. Much nicer then the potty mouth music is am used to! Good One Ido!

I was just in Edmonton two weeks ago! I wish i had of known you were there, I could have used a tour guide for a few hours. I am not really all that familiar with the city! Next time.
 
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