Mic watch...

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Do I have to mention every piece of gear I own to qualify to talk about my 4 channels of RNP? Wasnt aware of it.
As for calling my bluff... heh...
As far as regurgitating information... I have everything that I talk about, and have had my hands on everything that I talk down about. 18 years or so I have been doing this, what I say isnt gospel, but never is it not founded on experience and learning shit the hard way through the years. I make sense, plain and simple. If you dont agree, learn it the hard way or your own way.
I merely try to save someone, anyone, the frustration that I had to deal with. Cheap shit doesnt mean good shit. Very rare that is the case. As I already said, its whoevers money, let spend as you see fit. And as I said before, dont cry when your shit doesnt sound like you expect it to.
I'll keep my mouth shut from now on. Whats the use?
 
tubedude said:
I'll keep my mouth shut from now on.

since it seems you want to stay placed on that 'pedistal' you put under yourself, I'd say your above statement to be your best option.

happy new years:)
 
Go to hell, mixmkr... if you cant post something worthwhile and useful to a thread, then keep YOUR fucking mouth shut, you FT wannabe. Starting to think you are one of those people that just posts to keep your post count up and look like you are important or something.

"don't let the door hit you in the ass.. "

Yeah, that was real useful to this thread, and got your dumbass on my bad side and me in an argumentive state. You sure contributed something great there, didnt you? What a resource you are.
Done with it.
 
Tubie,

Am I to presume that the 603's aren't going on the market in the near future then?:)

An observation for anyone who cares..........

Amongst the plethora of "cheap/cheaper" mic coming out of China/Asia there are some very good mics. Will they have the build quality to be around in 10 or 20 yrs time?..............Who knows, only time will tell.

There is also a large number of these mics on the market which are essentially "off the shelf" models (disquised behind occasionally Teutonic sounding brand names and in some cases, misleading websites), whose performance is best classed as ordinary and whose quality (control) is dubious to say the least. So when considering "cheap" mics it would be wise to differentiate between the acceptable and unacceptable.

:cool:
 
Man!
You guys are flaming the tube dude, and honestly, I can't see where he deserves it!
He started this thread saying, "hey, here's a great mic at a great price if anyone's interested."

Me - "Thanks tube, but I think I'll pass."
Others - "Fuck you TD, take your mic watch, shove it you no-talent wanna be!"

Just an observation. ;)
 
Michael,

I hope my post didn't come across as "flaming", as that was not my intent.

I have no doubt that the 441's are a great mic, but unfortunately even the s/hand prices over here are ridiculous relative to their new price. My "observation" was a reaction to the multitude of people who tend (either intentionally or unintentionally) to categorise ALL Chinese/Asian mics as "cheap, crappy, over-rated, etc.), when the truth is somewhat different.

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When I bought my first cheap chinese mic the first thing I did was to take it apart and look for shit engineerig. I have to say I did not find any, and all of the components seemed of high quality and at the price the mechanical construction was more than acceptable. yes Neumans etc would be nice BUT?



Originally posted by ausrock My "observation" was a reaction to the multitude of people who tend (either intentionally or unintentionally) to categorise ALL Chinese/Asian mics as "cheap, crappy, over-rated, etc.), when the truth is somewhat different.

:cool: [/B]
 
tubedude said:
Go to hell, mixmkr... if you cant post something worthwhile and useful to a thread, then keep YOUR fucking mouth shut, you FT wannabe. Starting to think you are one of those people that just posts to keep your post count up and look like you are important or something.

"don't let the door hit you in the ass.. "

Yeah, that was real useful to this thread, and got your dumbass on my bad side and me in an argumentive state. You sure contributed something great there, didnt you? What a resource you are.
Done with it.

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Originally posted by tubedude
These forums have really started to irritate me lately.

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seems like it all started with your attitude...
funny how trackrat seemed to sense the same thing...
yeah...gotta keep the post count up....look important to people like you.. Don't think so. As I said, the majority of my comments have been in the mp3 clinic. I'll let the door hit ME in the ass this time, as you can go ahead and continue to play bigshot here in the mic forum. You're just a nobody to me anyway with your pompous attitude.
 
Michael Jones said:
Man!
You guys are flaming the tube dude, and honestly, I can't see where he deserves it!
He started this thread saying, "hey, here's a great mic at a great price if anyone's interested."

Me - "Thanks tube, but I think I'll pass."
Others - "Fuck you TD, take your mic watch, shove it you no-talent wanna be!"

Just an observation. ;)

your observation is skewed... I never said NOR IMPLIED "Fuck you TD, take your mic watch, shove it you no-talent wanna be!"
If you want to [waste your time], I'd reread the previous posts. Maybe check out how "irritated" Tubedude is with dealing with people with lesser knowledge than him. But, people usually start jumping on sides here on these kind of "debates"...so, it doesn't supprise me with your last response.
 
And all you gotta do is drop it and keep your mouth shut from the beginning. I never said anything to you, dickhead, I merely commented how most people never really listen. And yes, the same shit rehashed over and over again has really started to irritate me. Sorry that bothers you so bad.
Try closing your mouth now. Something tells me you cant, but maybe you will since I said you couldnt. Doubtful, but hopeful at the same time.
Once again, I've never tried to do anything but help. Most people here have 2 years in this stuff and if I can save them some heartache that I dealt with when there werent any forums or people to ask, then I've done them a favor. You running me off is a disservice to those same people, but fine.
 
Tubedude, I have to agree that this started out as something harmless and all you were doing is trying to clue somebody onto a good deal and if I could shell out $300.00 right now I'd probably grab one.Most people don't follow the advice of others and it can get frustrating.My blood boils everytime I see "which mic is best?", "which mic pre is best?"etc. without using the search button first but it will never change...For instance, I was looking at buying a Soundelux U99 or U195 and I came across a good deal on a brand new 414b-uls.Certainly, not in the same league as the Soundelux but I wanted a multi pattern LD condenser and now I'm going to buy another one so I can have a stereo pair which for me will be much more useful in my situation than one incredible mic.Someday the U195,& 441 will be in my mic closet but at this point I felt 2 414b-uls is not a bad investment for my studio.I had members who agreed and other members who didn't agree with my decisions but hey that shit happens..
As far as members nitpicking posts just to nitpick that shit happens to and I've seen several members jump on Blue Bear and Sonusman and others just because they knew they were "Pro Engineers".Either way keep posting the mic watch as someday I'll jump on the offer...
 
mixmkr said:
your observation is skewed... I never said NOR IMPLIED "Fuck you TD, take your mic watch, shove it you no-talent wanna be!"
I didn't say you said that.
I just said it was an observation, a general feeling I got from the consensus of some of the posts. I never used anyones name.
 
I confess I'm a little mystified, but I guess that's because my interest is in mics, not personalities. I've got news for y'all- I *do* listen. From this board, I've gotten a few ideas, and hopefully made a few discoveries on my own. When all is said and done, I completed my mic cabinet, at least for the current project, based on my own limited ears, and a lot of people's opinions.
And sure enough, my cabinet contains some cheap Chinese mics, some cheap Russian mics, a mid-priced Australian mic, a wicked expensive Latvian mic, a couple of higher end dynamics. a few mics that few people here care for, but which my ears said "they're all wrong", and a couple of SM57's. I, for one, appreciate all of your suggestions and input, even when you disagree. That doesn't mean you have to be disagreeable.
Regarding the mics, I can say that I'd use my C-3 for vocals, or for that matter, a B-1, before I'd use my SM-7. But then again, I'd use AKG C2000B in preference to any of them. On the other hand, I'd mic a cab with SM7, or AKG D112, or SM82 (my first choice). I don't just swallow what people here say, and although I don't have many years of recording experience, I try to only offer advice that I'm sure is good, usually to offer alternatives.
Mix and Tube, I don't really care what gear you have, or what your post count is, or how good your MP3's are. You guys are simply other alternatives.. What I've learned here is that Sennheiser builds a rugged classic dynamic with a variety of uses, and that a guy who owns an RNP might like it enough to go out and buy 3 more.
What I've learned is that a cheap Chinese mic might be just the tool for the job, and that an SM57, no matter how cheap and versatile, is not the greatest dynamic ever made. The point, Tubedude, is that there are always people who listen, and most usually don't, and this board and this forum haven't cornered the market on that. The answer to people who don't listen is not to shut up and go away, or result to cat fighting just to get a rise out of them. The answer is to learn what it is that makes them listen. It's not what you said that got mixmkr's hackles up, it's the implications he read into it, true or not. I'm sure you both know lots more about recording than me, but I wouldn't recommend a career in nursing to you, either.-Richie
 
tubedude said:
And all you gotta do is drop it and keep your mouth shut from the beginning. I never said anything to you, dickhead,.........

.......... You running me off is a disservice to those same people, but fine.

damn dude..don't bust a blood vessel over it... but like I said, don't let the door hit ya in the ass..
 
tubedude said:
Go to hell, mixmkr... if you cant post something worthwhile and useful to a thread, then keep YOUR fucking mouth shut, you FT wannabe.

What's an "FT"? (It's hard to enjoy a good insult when I don't know the abbreviations...)
 
FT = Father Time...........a banned member who apparently still haunts the Dragon Cave under various niks and disguises. I know little else about him or the reasons for his lack of popularity.



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ausrock said:
Michael,
I have no doubt that the 441's are a great mic, but unfortunately even the s/hand prices over here are ridiculous relative to their new price. My "observation" was a reaction to the multitude of people who tend (either intentionally or unintentionally) to categorise ALL Chinese/Asian mics as "cheap, crappy, over-rated, etc.), when the truth is somewhat different.

:cool:

The question is will these mics stand up to rugged use in a enviourment were they are handeld daily. Is some studios you can't afford to have a mic make noise or sputter or collapse during sessions or you might as well go out of buisness.

I have heard quite a few stories about some of the mics failing upon delivery and some that the owners had to send the mics back after a months use for repair. Of course that is far from a statistical report and 8-10 stories doesnt allow conclusions but having used some mics with a reputation, for over 15 years and more, under hard working conditions, there are mics I trust and can rely on more then others.

Time will tell...No doubt most of the gear will be made in China in the future........
 
I have heard quite a few stories about some of the mics failing upon delivery and some that the owners had to send the mics back after a months use for repair. Of course that is far from a statistical report and 8-10 stories doesnt allow conclusions but having used some mics with a reputation, for over 15 years and more, under hard working conditions, there are mics I trust and can rely on more then others.
Well, here's some anecdotal evidence to the contrary: I have 6 chinese condensors, and I've never had a problem with any of them.
 
Sorry folks... I've been under a lot of stress lately and its been a crappy month and I am very defensive. Some people just dont know when to leave things alone and shut up, just like a girl does when you are pissed off.
Hey...
that makes sense...
Mixmkr is a CHICK! :)
No fucking wonder....
I'm done, back to looking for cool cheap stuff on ebay.
 
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