Mic picks up too much empty ness of the room

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jimmys69 said:
I disagree. That is exactly why I recommended this setup. It helps to stop the flutter echo at the source. In an untreated room, the flutter echo will be no less present by moving to another location. A mic in a corner is just asking for more problems in an untreated room. My room is treated in all corners and 12 of these 2X4'X4" absorbers 5' apart on the walls with a cloud above the mixing desk. I recommended this 'behind mic' setup as it worked quite well before I built and installed the absorbers. I use the same basic setup with the appropriate materials now.


Btw, just curious what you recommend as the best place to set up a mic?
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The traps you describe would tame most of the flutter echo and room modes. You can try this for yourself in another bedroom that isn't treated. Just stand in the center and clap your hands. Putting a mic in that position doesn't "stop it at the source", if anything it amplifies the problem. Ever seen a parabola mic? Like the ones they use at sporting events? They can pick up sources across the field by concentrating the soundwave at the mic. Micing in the center of a room that is nearly a cube does the same thing. It focuses all the flutter echo and other audio artifacts right into the capsule.

The best place to set up a mic is in a properly treated room, the bigger the better. As the op is finding out, condensor mics are extremely sensitive and pick up whatever is going on in the room.

I tried the moving blanket thing years ago, and wound up building gobos because the blanket thing just doesn't work. The solution is to properly treat the room, then pick one end or the other-- preferably with treatment behind the mic too. Or find a better room. One that isn't square and has a vaulted ceiling, and treat that room appropriately.
 
I think we may have misunderstood each other as I completely agree with you. From what I gathered from the OP is that he didn't have appropriate treatment and was looking for a shortcut to close the space up a bit. The last thing I would want him to do is go with a vocal booth to try to solve his problem. I was merely suggesting easy 'helping' options if real treatment was not possible.
c7sus said:
The traps you describe would tame most of the flutter echo and room modes. You can try this for yourself in another bedroom that isn't treated. Just stand in the center and clap your hands. Putting a mic in that position doesn't "stop it at the source", if anything it amplifies the problem. Ever seen a parabola mic? Like the ones they use at sporting events? They can pick up sources across the field by concentrating the soundwave at the mic. Micing in the center of a room that is nearly a cube does the same thing. It focuses all the flutter echo and other audio artifacts right into the capsule.

The best place to set up a mic is in a properly treated room, the bigger the better. As the op is finding out, condensor mics are extremely sensitive and pick up whatever is going on in the room.

I tried the moving blanket thing years ago, and wound up building gobos because the blanket thing just doesn't work. The solution is to properly treat the room, then pick one end or the other-- preferably with treatment behind the mic too. Or find a better room. One that isn't square and has a vaulted ceiling, and treat that room appropriately.
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The op might be better off in the long run ditching the K2 and getting a good quality dynamic with a cardioid or hypercardioid pattern.
 
Sounds good man! Funny how a simple question like yours can turn into a debate. In the end, you found something that worked for your situation. Well done taking it into your own hands to 'try' something out. It seems to have worked for ya. :)
 
Haha thanks, this site has always been helpful. Thanks to everyone
 
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