Mexican Strats

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JCM900 said:
Thanks anyway..... I'll keep playing my american made guitars.... I happen to like people in the good ole USA to have good paying jobs.... I dont want to send my money to mexico china japan or any of those places when I have a choice.
Hey, it's your money - buy what you like for whatever reasons you have.

The fact remains that a MIM Strat and a MIK Strat are every bit as authentic as a MIA Strat. Made in a different location with some detail differences, but authentic nonetheless.
 
JCM900 said:
Thanks anyway..... I'll keep playing my american made guitars.... I happen to like people in the good ole USA to have good paying jobs.... I dont want to send my money to mexico china japan or any of those places when I have a choice.
My comment on the "real" fender strats refers to AMERICAN MADE... like when they first started.... owners of the real deal are not "snooty".
I dont like it when a company outsources to other countrys, sorry if you dont like it or agree... it is afterall a free country...
In my opinion... if an company such a Fender which has always been an american company now has guitars manufactured outside the country unlike the original strat or tele... then its a copy...nothing more... yeah it says Fender on it.... but its not an american guitar built by american hands in an american company.... bogus.
I guess you all support the free trade agreement too...

What kind of car do you drive?
Where were your CD, MP3 and DVD players made?
Where was your TV made?
where were the clothes on your back stitched?

Point is, while supporting American labour is all well and good, it's becoming an increasingly difficult thing to do, especially now that the quality of Mexican and Eastern instruments has risen considerably.

However, if you're willing to bear the financial burden of being patriotic as opposed to economically minded, well then hey, go for it; it is, as you have said, a free country. Just don't instantaneously dismiss all goods manufactured offshore as worthless.
 
apl said:
Consider Carvin electrics. Very much made in the USA.

I can't find a dealer near me, but they look sweet. Any model in particular that you'd recommend for a guy who normally plays Strats?
 
JCM900 said:
I dont like it when a company outsources to other countrys, sorry if you dont like it or agree... it is afterall a free country...
In my opinion... if an company such a Fender which has always been an american company now has guitars manufactured outside the country unlike the original strat or tele... then its a copy...nothing more... yeah it says Fender on it.... but its not an american guitar built by american hands in an american company.... bogus.

True. But when you buy ANY Fender you are supporting a company who outsources labor to other countries. True that american guitars are made by american hands, but the company itself is still just another big greedy corporation who believes in outsourcing for cheap labor and parts.

Carvin is the one company that I know of who doesn't deal in such nonsense. I'm not sure about Peavey because I haven't delt with them in years. As far as I know, they're still all american. (could be wrong there.)


JCM900 said:
I guess you all support the free trade agreement too...

Hell no. That's why I use Carvin and Peavy.
 
32-20-Blues said:
I can't find a dealer near me, but they look sweet. Any model in particular that you'd recommend for a guy who normally plays Strats?

You won't find a dealer unless you live in California where they have a few showrooms. You have to deal directly with the factory, but that how you get a $2000.00 guitar for $1000.00.

If you like strats, they have one call The Bolt that targets that market.

I play a 86 Carvin DC-135 and i like it better than any Gibson or Fender I've played. That guitar is solid and is like playing silk.
 
32-20-Blues said:
I can't find a dealer near me, but they look sweet. Any model in particular that you'd recommend for a guy who normally plays Strats?

They've only got a few stores in California. The bulk of their business is ordered direct from the factory. They have a model called the Bolt which is pretty stratty. 60s Guy built one from their kit, probably the cheapest made in the USA guitar with that level of quality you can get. Tons of options, woods, fingerboard radii, fret wires, headstocks...
 
I play a DC135 that I modded to a 145. Silky is right. I loaned it to my friend who plays a JEM and he was way impressed.
 
apl said:
I play a DC135 that I modded to a 145. Silky is right. I loaned it to my friend who plays a JEM and he was way impressed.


heh. I like to see the look on people's faces when they play my guitar for the first time. a friend has about 10 American made Gibson and Fender guitars of various models. On my last visit I played nearly every guitar he has...and he has some sweet ones. But i was a little disappointed in they way they played. So before i left, I put my Carvin in his hands. The look on his face was priceless. =] It's my opinion that Carvin builds the finest electric guitars that can be had, especially for the money.
 
JCM900 said:
Thanks anyway..... I'll keep playing my american made guitars.... I happen to like people in the good ole USA to have good paying jobs.... I dont want to send my money to mexico china japan or any of those places when I have a choice.
My comment on the "real" fender strats refers to AMERICAN MADE... like when they first started.... owners of the real deal are not "snooty".
I dont like it when a company outsources to other countrys, sorry if you dont like it or agree... it is afterall a free country...
In my opinion... if an company such a Fender which has always been an american company now has guitars manufactured outside the country unlike the original strat or tele... then its a copy...nothing more... yeah it says Fender on it.... but its not an american guitar built by american hands in an american company.... bogus.
I guess you all support the free trade agreement too...

Take a good whiff of your tuners, pots, bridge assembly, and PuPs(?) on that REAL AMERICAN GUITAR...... if ya dont smell the sweat of Asian children or water from the Rio Grande, ya might want to get your nose checked! :)
 
For the people that continually scream "BUY AMERICAN," I ask them - Are you going to help me out with the money necessary to do so? Probably not. For that reason, I'll buy what I can afford, and tweak as needed.

Matt
 
Unsprung said:
For the people that continually scream "BUY AMERICAN," I ask them - Are you going to help me out with the money necessary to do so? Probably not. For that reason, I'll buy what I can afford, and tweak as needed.

Matt
Do you have a Paypal account?
 
Zaphod B said:
Hey, it's your money - buy what you like for whatever reasons you have.

The fact remains that a MIM Strat and a MIK Strat are every bit as authentic as a MIA Strat. Made in a different location with some detail differences, but authentic nonetheless.
The big difference is that 20 or 30 years from now the MIM MIK will be
worth less than the original price,while the American made will be worth
more than what you paid for it.
I here a lot of people saying that one is as good as the other.I can feel
and see a huge difference between American and those made elsewhere.
I've been playing guitar for about 30 years,and during that time I've owned
some really shitty axes.One of the things I have learned over the years is
to buy equipment that will have a decent resale value.
I'm sure that some of the MIM/MIK are real gems,but in the end it is like
buying a doublewide trailer.As soon as it leaves the lot the resale value is
less than half of the original price.
 
SHEPPARDB. said:
in the end it is like
buying a doublewide trailer.As soon as it leaves the lot the resale value is
less than half of the original price.
With that attitude you'll live in a single-wide your entire life.
 
ez_willis said:
With that attitude you'll live in a single-wide your entire life.
Does entire mean the same thing as whole?
BTW,ran into your pops the other day at a cattle auction and he said to tell
that you are still prettier than your sister. :D
 
SHEPPARDB. said:
The big difference is that 20 or 30 years from now the MIM MIK will be
worth less than the original price,while the American made will be worth
more than what you paid for it.
I here a lot of people saying that one is as good as the other.I can feel
and see a huge difference between American and those made elsewhere.
I've been playing guitar for about 30 years,and during that time I've owned
some really shitty axes.One of the things I have learned over the years is
to buy equipment that will have a decent resale value.
I'm sure that some of the MIM/MIK are real gems,but in the end it is like
buying a doublewide trailer.As soon as it leaves the lot the resale value is
less than half of the original price.
Oh, I agree with you to a certain extent. Overall I think that the MIA Strats are of higher quality - better hardware and electronics, at least.

As you say, I do think a MIA Strat will at minimum retain its value over time, and the others won't.

I'm just addressing the question of what a "real" Strat is. :)
 
Zaphod B said:
Oh, I agree with you to a certain extent. Overall I think that the MIA Strats are of higher quality - better hardware and electronics, at least.

As you say, I do think a MIA Strat will at minimum retain its value over time, and the others won't.

I'm just addressing the question of what a "real" Strat is. :)

I can buy used(post 70's) American strats all day long for way under what people paid for them, but they deffinately hold their value better than MIK MIMS. This isnt the arguement.... a strat made by fender, regardless of origin, is still a real strat!
 
SHEPPARDB. said:
Does entire mean the same thing as whole?
BTW,ran into your pops the other day at a cattle auction and he said to tell
that you are still prettier than your sister. :D
What a total coincidence. I ran into your mom at a cattle auction, and she said "moooo". :p
 
And to summarize this thread, 60's guy's friend bought a used Fender Strat for $200, and we're a bunch of losers.
 
ez_willis said:
And to summarize this thread, 60's guy's friend bought a used Fender Strat for $200, and we're a bunch of losers.


yup. that pretty much sums it up. =P
 
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