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RIPDimeCFH
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Wrote this sometime ago, but interested in hearing any suggestions..
Thanks
Thanks
Farview
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The first thing that hit me was when the song fades up, I thought I was listening to amp noise (hiss), then as the song faded up, I realized that it was the guitar tone.
You could stand to put a high shelf at about 4-6k and cut drastically. The guitars are very heavy in the fatiguing stuff way up there that is completely unnecessary and generally doesn't exist in guitar tones from a miced amp.
The guitars are also too loud compared to the drums. That might be because your ears are burnt out from all the piercing highs on the guitar.
You could stand to put a high shelf at about 4-6k and cut drastically. The guitars are very heavy in the fatiguing stuff way up there that is completely unnecessary and generally doesn't exist in guitar tones from a miced amp.
The guitars are also too loud compared to the drums. That might be because your ears are burnt out from all the piercing highs on the guitar.
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RIPDimeCFH
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Your absolutely right.. I don't know why, but I've always preferred to boost the highs, even though I know that it fatigues the ears. It's a bad habit and I need to break it 
... I'll try what you suggested.
Thanks for your insight!
... I'll try what you suggested. Thanks for your insight!
Farview
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Are you boosting the highs in the mix, or at the amp sim? In the mix, with a sound like that you shouldn't need to add high end. If you want the guitars to sound thin like they do, you just need to get rid of the low end.
If you are going for the dime sound, you have too much gain. That adds to the fatigue as well. If you need more sustain than you can get with the gain turned down, use a compressor/sustainer to give you the sustain will keeping your gain level in the crunchy zone instead of the fuzzy zone.
If you are going for the dime sound, you have too much gain. That adds to the fatigue as well. If you need more sustain than you can get with the gain turned down, use a compressor/sustainer to give you the sustain will keeping your gain level in the crunchy zone instead of the fuzzy zone.
FoulPhil
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It's very BOOOMY man. You should try to balance it out. It really sounds dry and harsh especially at loud volumes. I think all the instruments could use different reverbs or delays. Sounds like old Metallica, but way too dry...
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RIPDimeCFH
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I think the highs are mainly boosted on the amp, through the eq that was running through the effects loop. I was going for more of an early Metallica sound, so was trying to keep it as raw as possible. I was also using headphones while recording, so this didn't help things either..
Farview
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That was a miced amp?
Try putting the EQ (if you feel you really need it) in front of the amp instead of in the effects loop. You almost never need to add high end to an amp. It's actually better to record the amp a little dark sounding and then add highs in the mix. Having a really bright guitar tone coming out of the amp makes the speakers break up in a nasty way. If the amp is set darker, the speakers break up in the mids and lows, which is where you want them to. Then you can add a bunch of high end in the mix and it just sounds more open.
Try putting the EQ (if you feel you really need it) in front of the amp instead of in the effects loop. You almost never need to add high end to an amp. It's actually better to record the amp a little dark sounding and then add highs in the mix. Having a really bright guitar tone coming out of the amp makes the speakers break up in a nasty way. If the amp is set darker, the speakers break up in the mids and lows, which is where you want them to. Then you can add a bunch of high end in the mix and it just sounds more open.
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RIPDimeCFH
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I was using a Marshall 8100 and it's got a great tone, but I wanted it to be a little brighter, hence the eq. My logic at the time was if I can get the guitar tone recorded like I want, that's just one less thing for me to worry about when mixing. Next time will record using the amp by itself, and eqing in the mix if I need it.
joeym
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The guitars are way too fizzy and scooped, no mids at all, hence no body at all. And they're too loud. They totally hurt the ears. Take Farview's advice.