Metal Guitar

[VesuviusJay]

I'm recording death metal rythm guitar using a behringer mixer without phantom power, and a beta SM57. I am not satisfied with the lower frequency response Im getting. Im going through a Crate GFX 212-t. Any suggestions how I may get a little more low end in the rythm guitar tracks?

 

[plexi]

I'm recording death metal rythm guitar using a behringer mixer without phantom power, and a beta SM57. I am not satisfied with the lower frequency response Im getting. Im going through a Crate GFX 212-t. Any suggestions how I may get a little more low end in the rythm guitar tracks?

Does the amp sound like you want it in the room?
If not, you`re in trouble.......

But here`s a little tip: try using two mics on the cab, position one of them where it sounds the best and experiment with the other to get more low end, try flipping the phase too. With some experimentation you should do fine, IF the amp is sounding decent.


Amund

 

[VesuviusJay]

How about the number of tracks to get good powerful rythm? Just one panned left and one right or should I use more?

 

[Toad Rush]

Yeah you can double the guitars in each channel, adding a few MS of delay to one of them maybe?

 

[Mike_W]

What are you recording into? Are you able to add EQ durring mixdown? That may be the best way to go. I've never really liked the sound of 'Crates' , too thin and tinny for my taste anyway. Also when you add bass guitar to the mix it will make a difference.

 

[VesuviusJay]

It does. Actually let me post a link. Download an MP3 and give me your oppinion.

http://www.vesuviusdeath.com/ashblacksun.zip

 

[Mike_W]

Yeah the guitar parts are pretty weak in the mix. where did you place the mic when you recorded? If you point the mic directly in the center of the speaker you will lose a lot of low end. Try pointing the mic 'between' the outer edge of the speaker cone and where the cone meets the dust cover in the center. You could also try running your guitar signal through a compressor and set it for some mild compression. sometimes compression will give you a little boost in the low end and add some punchiness too. I still think you could save the guitars by inserting an EQ to the guitar tracks during mix down.

There are all kinds of methods to use, but I don't know what equipment you are using or the methods you used.

 

[ignition]

TURN THE DRUMS DOWN! From what I can hear, the guitar sound you're getting isn't that bad, but man those drums are overpowering, I can barely hear the guitars.

Once you do that, if you're still not happy with the sound you have, throw on some cans, have a buddy jam on the guitar, and move your mic around until you find a sound you're happy with.

travis

 

[VesuviusJay]

Well here is what I'm using. Maybe you guys can clue me in on mic placement and configuration. Im using beta sm57, behringer eurorack mx1604a mixer, all monster XLR cable, into a sound blaster audigy platinum sound card at 24 bit, dithering to 16 bit, using Nuendo 1.6. Im recording the guitar at 24 bit stereo. One track for hard pan left, one for hard pan right, one for center, and one clean for center at barely audible level. As you can hear what Im lacking is bass responce and low frequency crunch/body. With that in mind what do you all suggest?

 

[LocusLarsen]

That sounds about as good as any crusty hardcore I can remember. Those drums sound like you spent some time getting a good isolation (the toms at least). You don't need much more bass is the guitar if you just toss in a bass line.

 

[eyeslikefire]

Yes, this subject sounds interesting, indeed.

Yes, I can't stant seeing your stupid ass remarks, indeed.