Marshall V67 at Mars Music

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well blinddog...doesn't that bring another cook into the kitchen. hhhmmm a $200 mic that has sonic (internal electronic) differences amongst the different colors offered....hhhhmmm. what a bunch of bullshit.
 
It is definitely bullshit. They just don't want Mars catching them telling people there is no difference other than the color. The Mars brochure proudly proclaims: Exclusively at Mars Music.... and the sales person told me the difference was that theirs was wired with Mogami cable. We know they are all wired with Mogami cable. There is no difference except the color, I would bet my next paycheck...........
 
Sonic Difference?

That just doesn't make any sense to me. If they said it was different do to a certain part or some different wiring or something... that would be substantial... but just to say a slight sonic difference ,,, kinda sounds like they don't know either.... I'm hoping that all the mics are the same..... just different colors.... I'll post a reply when I get mine..... but I wish I had a "green" one to compare it too..... hmmmmmmm
 
Just as different colors absorb and reflect light waves differently, the different colored mics absorb and reflect sound waves differently, adding there own "coloration" to the sound.

The black ones have a very Dark sound.

For optimum power transfer the internal wiring should match the external color. This way there is no "line loss" or sonic cancellation, due to the mismatch.

Zeke
 
Color of the mic?

No offense..... but to me that sounds silly.... the color of the mic don't have a thing to do with whats on the inside..... they show all the mics in there adds and show the different colors and they don't say a thing about the colors having to do anything with the tone..... darker color means a darker tone??? :-) I find that hard to believe..... what does the green tone sound like... maybe the silver is brighter than both?
 
gamut1, Zeke was pulling your leg.

As far as any possible differences, the V67G was changed from the original design (which used the 2001 capsule and circuit board) to a different output transformer, a different J-FET, and some resistor changes, which resulted in a slightly lower noise floor and a little smoother top end and a bit fuller bottom end. Whether these changes are also in the Mars version or not, I don't know. I've only heard the green and gold V-67G.
 
Hey Harvey,

Hi Harvey,
Is there anyway I can tell which capsule is in this mic? Whether its the newer design or not? Just curious... thanks....
 
gamut,

It's probably the new transformer, since Marshall said they made the change pretty early in the mic's design. If you bought it within the last six months or so, I wouldn't worry about it - you've got the new one.
 
Being the selfless person that I am, I just ordered a V-67 from Abe's and I will compare it to the one I bought last week at Mars and post my findings. I am still betting that I will not be able to tell the difference.
 
I've had my V67 now for about a year. Bought it at Mars. Its black. No "m" or mogami insignia on it anywhere. Spec sheet is same as MXL2001 I bought a week before.
 
Last weekend I went to the neighborhood Sam Ash, told them about Mars' deal on the V-67 and presto - they matched the price. So I'm now the proud owner of my first large diaphram condensor microphone!

I've only been recording for less than a year, so my impressions are colored by my inexperience. But I must say - I was floored by the detail in the sound. I have only had time to fool around with vocals and acoustic guitar, but the sound is truly amazing. (Of course, I have to unplug the refrigerator and turn off the A/C because the dang mic picks up so much.)

Yeah, the gold looks a little cheesy, but the sound more than makes up for it!
 
blinddogblues said:
Being the selfless person that I am, I just ordered a V-67 from Abe's and I will compare it to the one I bought last week at Mars and post my findings. I am still betting that I will not be able to tell the difference.
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So, what happened? I'm very curious....I'd like to get a V67, but would rather not have to get a cheesy looking one unless I have to. What's the verdict?
 
I received my V-67 from Abe's and compared it to the one from Mars and I cannot tell the difference. I am not a vocalist at all, but I sang into each mic, with all settings the same on each, and I simply could not tell one from the other. Someone on here made a comment earlier that the grills were different between the two mics. I inspected them very closely and I believe the grills are identical. The weave of the metal is exactly the same.
Now I DID discover one apparent difference. I took both mics apart. On the back of the base of the Mars mic there was a sticker that said "wired with MOGAMI". I opened the green one and there was no such label. Ofcourse, I knew the Mars mic had MOGAMI actually printed on the outside of the mic, but I figured that was just a gimmick to try to differentiate their V-67 from the others. I assumed that in reality that all the V-67 mics were wired with Mogami, and maybe they are. But the fact that there was a label on the INSIDE of the mic, where very few people would ever see it, and the same sticker is not inside the green one tells me that perhaps Mars DID in fact specify this and that the others are not Mogami. There is really no way to know without asking Marshall. Anyway, Mogami or no Mogami, to my ears, the mics sounded exactly the same and I think if there are any sonic differences, better trained ears than mine would be required to detect it.
 
BIG DIFFERENCE!

One is green, the other is black.

The green/gold one is "earthy" and "organic," yet the gold mesh is shiny therefore a little "brighter" than the black one. The black one is "darker" and "warmer," especially if you squint your eyes or leave it in the sun.

Oh wait...were you asking about the sound?


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I recorded a family gospel group Saturday that consisted of 5 girls, ages 16 down to 4. The youngest ones argued over which one got to sing into the green and gold microphone. That alone was worth the price of admission.
 
Re: BIG DIFFERENCE!

Tom Cram said:
One is green, the other is black.

The green/gold one is "earthy" and "organic," yet the gold mesh is shiny therefore a little "brighter" than the black one. The black one is "darker" and "warmer," especially if you squint your eyes or leave it in the sun.

Oh wait...were you asking about the sound?
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Damn, that makes my decision tougher....see, I love things that sound "earthy" and "organic"....then again, I also love things that sound "dark" and "warm". rrrrrrrrrRRRRRGGGGHHH!! How am I gonna DECIDE?


blingdog,

Thanks for the info. More to the point about which to get is that fact that, if a brand new BLACK mic were to show up in the house, my wife would never even notice, let alone ask when I got that or how much did it cost, BUT....that green and gold thing is kinda hard to ignore, y'know? If they really do sound the same, I'll go for the lower-profile one.

Thanks again.

Chris
 
Now there's a man after my own heart! If you're gonna hide it from your wife, I might buy one for you! You are right, the black one is less conspicious, so you better get that one. Hell, I've bought 7 mics in the past 4-5 months, my wife hasn't seen any of them. If she does, I'll swear I bought them all 5 years ago at pawn shops for $10 each. That's what I love about microphones, they are easy to hide....now if I could just find a girlfriend that was that size!!
 
blinddogblues said:
Now there's a man after my own heart! If you're gonna hide it from your wife, I might buy one for you! You are right, the black one is less conspicious, so you better get that one. Hell, I've bought 7 mics in the past 4-5 months, my wife hasn't seen any of them. If she does, I'll swear I bought them all 5 years ago at pawn shops for $10 each.

You've got more guts than me, my friend. And probably confidential bank records as well.... me, well....most of my gigs are paid by check, but about once a month I play some one-nighter and at the end of the night I get the old "wink-and-a $100 (150...200...whatever) handshake", and I tell myself right then, "that there's GEAR money".


That's what I love about microphones, they are easy to hide....now if I could just find a girlfriend that was that size!!
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I saw an ad in a magazine once that sounds like just what you're describing. It was about the size of a LD condenser mic, and it was made of.....uhh....

Oops! :eek: You meant a REAL girlfriend, right?

Never mind.
 
Ive never seen a gold one. Ive seen the lawson though and I like its looks, but will it tarnish after a while?

as an all arround mic is the mxl67 like better than the others in its price range?
 
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