making my on drum/percussion loops to sell?

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Have any of you guys ever heard of "Drag and Drp Drummer" ? I think that it's some pretty cool loops. they have been with real drums too. I was think thinking about recording a a few hundered drum beat loops and puting them,as wav. files ona cd to sell on ebay or something. Just an idead that i had.

Here's some of my drum sounds. are they good enough to put on a loop cd? http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=1775&alid=-1

zeke
 
I have several sample CD's that I made myself too but have never tried to sell em. If its not backed by a known name, you may have difficulty selling them. But if you decide to take it on, let us know how you do.
 
ZEKE, I think about doing this same thing every other day. I go back and forth but I'm sure that I'll try it at some point. I have been surprisingly disappointed at the loops I've bought for the most part. Just nitpicking things that I notice I'd change.

It does seem that the marketing is mainly about the drummer involved and the high dollar gear used to produce the tracks but I'm thinking if someone had something that sounded great and was at the right price it would sell. It's just a marketing problem.

It just seems to be a marketing problem that is not easily solved without lots of money.


Anyway, keep us up to date.
 
well, my plan was to spend a few weeks recording some 200 or so drum loops and then burn them on a cd and then load them up on a computer to edit and convert to wav. files, and then i would burn the wavs to cd. Then i would send it of to musician's friend (who, does cd dublication now,) where i can get 50 cds with cases and black printing on disk for $49 bucks (+ s/h) in 48hrs! Then i would do the math of how much each cd cost to make and add a few bucks to the answer, thereby creating a profet of a few bucks a cd. First i would try to sale'em on ebay. If they did well, maybe i could sell the rights to the loops to a company like Acid or Cakewalk.

I need a name for the loops thought. here's my ideas:

1. StudioTools: Studio Standard Kit

2. Xtream Drumming

3. Doctor Drummer

any ideas?
 
The drummer who does sessions with me has a somewhat similar idea. He wants to set up a web site and make money from his drumming.
We have brianstormed this concept and this is where my thinking is at. There are two basic categories of folks who might be willing to part with some of their hard earned cash.
1) Sample/Loop oriented people. These folks want to use Acid or similar software to slice and dice. They don't need more than a couple of measures of each style at various tempi. 99% of the visitors to my homepage Forest Park Productions ,according to site stats, used google and "Tom Hicks drum samples" to navigate there.
2) Home Studios without the ability to record a drum kit, but want a full acoustic kit on their tune, not a loop or samples. For these guys, you put up generic patterns 3-4 min long at 90 bpm,120 bpm and 160 bpm (or whatever you like) in styles like 8 beat,16 beat,cut time, swing,shuffle, etc. Or simply hire to specific tunes if their needs are too specific for your generic stuff.
 
I was thinking of recording one measure of a beat at 120bpm and then they could just copy it as many times as they wanted to. the only thing that i'm really having to brain storm on is deferent tempos. People want loops that can ajust to what THEY want. For now, i'm recommending the loops cd for users with software such as ACID or any software with time strech abillitys.
 
Hey guys I am always looking for loops but the main stopping point is price. If you have a quality product with a reasonable price I think word of mouth could work for you.
 
scottboyher said:
Hey guys I am always looking for loops but the main stopping point is price. If you have a quality product with a reasonable price I think word of mouth could work for you.
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That's what I'm talking about. Scott, what do you consider a reasonable price? I just bought discrete drums second hand for 185 and I consider that just a tad too high for most people, but it has 90% of what I think most are looking for. separate tracks for each mic, long phrases (8 bars), high quality (24 bit). it's just missing some things that would put it into the perfect category and there are actually too many loops (well their not really loops).

So if somebody were to produce something similar to discrete drums at a good pricepoint, I think there is a market for it. Not a raging market for it but a market anyway.

Now I'm back on the 'man, i really should do that' side of my internal argument.
 
Say $50-$100 a CD and make them one style only.

Rock
Alternative
Country
Jazz
Funk

I hate buying CDs or packages with tons of loops I will never use. Lower the price and just put on the CD what I want.

Hey, how about a custom CD system Zeke?
I want a CD with Country Loops on it you can make it and burn it on the spot!
 
what about drummer for hire?...i send you a song arranged already with a Fruity Loops track, and you record a REAL drum track.....
 
I'd be glad to man. Just one thing. How would you want to do it? my idea would be something like this:

You send me a cd with 2 ( cd ) tracks on it. The first one is the song with the frooty loops drums and then the second song ( track) is the one without drums, the one that i will use. I guess i can feed the drumless song out of the cd player into my recorder and then record drum tracks and burn it on cd. would you want the drums mixed or would you want to do that? If i mixed them, i would burn the drum tracks onto one stereo track on a cd and send it to you to record with your music. would something like that work? I can download the song from this computer cause it don't have a cd burner, so you can send me them and then i can upload them on my computer and post them at some place like nowhere for you to download and burn to a cd. what do you think?

Looking foward to it :)
 
Gidge said:
what about drummer for hire?...i send you a song arranged already with a Fruity Loops track, and you record a REAL drum track.....
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yeah, but how much are you gonna pay for that Gidge :).

I've done a couple of these in the clinic. Some have worked out better than others. But mostly it's convinced me that there's no substitute for a real drummer playing real drums.

Here are a couple of guys doing it
http://www.drumtracks.moonfruit.com/
http://www.drum-tracks.com/newmain2.htm
 
Where are you getting the drum sounds from? Are you recording your own drum sounds from your own kit? Are you using samples, sound modules, etc? There is some legal things to consider if you're thinking about using samples or sound modules.
 
imo, it's gotta be real drums recorded with real mics. You gotta offer something that is unreachable for the buyer at a good price. I think most homrecer's are do it yourselfers at heart. If they can get a satisfactory drum sound on their own with pads or a keyboard and samples they'll opt for that. But......if they can get real drum tracks at a good price, the difference is worth it i think.

The discrete drums product is a pretty good model that I'm thinking of. They just goofed up some things that make using the product a little bit of a headache. They also give you a lot of stuff that you won't use.

I've got the product plan worked out pretty well I think. It's just the marketing plan that's a stumper.


hmmmmmmmm.....
 
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