major help needed with MOTU 828 MII regarding mice pres

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Alright so I bought a MOTU 828 MK II and had forgoten that I need a mic pre in order to use mics in the back 8 analog 1/4 inputs. Im looking at mic pres now and cant find a 8 channel pre amp strip for under 500$ so then I turn to looking at mixers that could have channle outupts for each channel, I need major help, Im so confused...
 
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Alright so I bought a MOTU 828 MK II and had forgoten that I need a mic pre in order to use mics in the back 8 analog 1/4 inputs. Im looking at mic pres now and cant find a 8 channel pre amp strip for under 500$
That's a very tough price point to hit. Think about it: that's about $60 a channel. If you want something that won't hold you back at all, you'd do well to increase your budget. You probably won't even find a single product out there for that price, let alone one that's any good. For 8 channels of pre that are going to be a bit better than the two built into the 828, along with built-in compressors/limiters, look at the the Focusrite OctoPre for $960. For similar quality preamps without compressors, check out the RME OctaMic for $879.
I've heard the preamps in the Focusrite unit and they are nicely clean, though nothing really special.

If you want something a little better, look at the JLM TMP-8, True Systems Precision 8, ATI 8MX2, or perhaps even the new Mackie Onyx 800R (verdict's still out on it, though). And these are just the 8-channel units... personally I would go with a few channels of several different types of high-end preamps.

so then I turn to looking at mixers that could have channle outupts for each channel,
This is an option as well, though I would only go that route if you need a mixer for the mixer as well, not just the preamps. The preamps in any lower-priced mixer are going to be pretty inferior to any of these stand-alone units, and they'll still cost you more.
Here's a tip if you go the mixer route: you don't need individual channel direct outs. In fact, the quality of the "direct outs" is often inferior because it goes through the whole EQ, aux, fader, and possibly summing section inside the mixer. All you need is a mixer that provides Insert points for each channel: just plug into it, and voila, you have a direct-out that's usually wired immediately after the preamp stage.

I need major help, Im so confused...
Why? There's nothing confusing about it. You need product recommendations, and you need to start looking around and listening to demo units; not "major help."
 
You can get a used Soundcraft M12 or M8 off ebay for around that price. The Soundcraft M series has the same pres as the Ghost and are very nice pres. You can also look at the M-audio octane which is in the 500.00 ball park. But for the money the Soundcraft is the best 8 channels you can buy under 1k period.
 
Behringer, Nady, SMPro Audio all make cheap 8 pre boxes, under $200. You could look at those if you need 8 pres in a pinch. Theyre not great, but they are cheap. You probably dont really want a seperate mixer with the 828, as it has the mixing built into the unit and it could get confusing to you. But then again, maybe it would be an advantage...it all depends on knowing how to use what you got.

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Check out the Presonus Firepod. It's 8 channels, firewire, and you can find it for just over 500 at Full Compass and probably Sweetwater. I think it MAPs at 599, if you want to get it from the crap box stores. That will be way better than any Nady or Silver Bullet (Behringer) you'll find.
 
but thats an interface and hes got the motu. The only reason I mentioned the cheapies is that he said he couldnt find anything for that cheap. I was just noting their existance.
I think there are more and more 8 pre units coming on the market right now.

H2H
 
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