Mackie Vs. Behringer Mixers

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Does anyone have a preference of one of these companies over the other?

What about the difference in quality between Mackie's XDR mic-preamps vs. Behringers IMP mic-preamps?
 
Berhinger is usually entry level. Mackie is usually a step above that. You can tell by the pricing.

If you're on a budget/don't care, go with Behringer. If you're looking for better quality, Mackie.

Personally, I wouldn't restrict myself to those choices. If you want better quality start lookin at Allen and Heath or SoundCraft.
 
Mackie is an excellent AMERICAN made and OWNED company.
At least, last time I checked, their products were made with pride in the USA, but some have reported imports, avoid them at all costs.
 
jesus christ buddy. your "patriotism" aside, what the fuck?

honestly, thinking like that is just stupid. plain stupid. You know the oil you use to drive your car, thats an import? Perhaps you can brew some yourself in the good old U S of A?

i really dont know what to say? im shocked...
 
theboy said:
jesus christ buddy. your "patriotism" aside, what the fuck?

honestly, thinking like that is just stupid. plain stupid. You know the oil you use to drive your car, thats an import? Perhaps you can brew some yourself in the good old U S of A?

i really dont know what to say? im shocked...
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Yeah. It's pretty lame-brained to think like that.
I'm pretty damn patriotic, I love America, but what the fuck!?

Oh, I'd go with Mackie over Berri any day. But there's many other suitable alternatives too!
 
Flet said:
Does anyone have a preference of one of these companies over the other?

What about the difference in quality between Mackie's XDR mic-preamps vs. Behringers IMP mic-preamps?
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I have used the Mackie SR4-24 VLZ Pro for the last five years without any problem at all. It's a good board as long as you watch your levels. I know that they had trouble with the 8 buss version of this board but I think they have it worked out as long as you are buying a new one. If you can get by with a 4 buss board then I would recommend the sr4-24 vlz Mackie.

I also have a Soundcraft Spirit that sounds great but has been in the shop twice in 7 years. The Soundcraft repair was pretty lengthy since the repair guy had a difficult time getting schematics and parts.

I can't talk about the Behri board since I haven't used one but I am not a fan of their FX units :mad: and stopped buying the brand due to that.

Good luck.
 
theboy said:
jesus christ buddy. your "patriotism" aside, what the fuck?

honestly, thinking like that is just stupid. plain stupid. You know the oil you use to drive your car, thats an import? Perhaps you can brew some yourself in the good old U S of A?

i really dont know what to say? im shocked...
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Actually according to FOX news, the USA produces almost 60% of its own oil. the other near 40% comes from a variety of countries. so basically counting canada and mexico almost 80% of our oil supply comes either within or just outside our own borders. weird, i never knew that. makes you wonder if we're getting screwed by our own people and it raises some light on the illegal immigrant situation (possibly).

the most in order after our own country........

canada
mexico
southamerica
africa
saudi arabia (last if you can believe it)

anyway, Makie appears to be the better quality and definantely has the reputaion of being better quality, but who really knows. I would bet if you set up a recoding studio and then a live PA for a band to play through, and then did a A/B comparison to Makie and Berringer you would'nt hear much of a difference in either application. What little you did hear you could probably EQ.

there are alot of opinions out there including mine that have never been proven in a real enviroment.

think about what you may have thought about our oil consumtion in our country. The old saying that "perception is reality" has never been truer and every company that has something to sell and every polititian knows this and uses this type of marketing to mold your thinking.
 
metalj said:
Actually according to FOX news, the USA produces almost 60% of its own oil. the other near 40% comes from a variety of countries. so basically counting canada and mexico almost 80% of our oil supply comes either within or just outside our own borders. weird, i never knew that. makes you wonder if we're getting screwed by our own people and it raises some light on the illegal immigrant situation (possibly).

the most in order after our own country........

canada
mexico
southamerica
africa
saudi arabia (last if you can believe it)
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not to get off track....but you have to take into account what's going on in the middle east right now and how much production has diminished recently. Prior to the war in 2000 the U.S. imported 36,400,000 more barrels than they did in 2005. While imports from countries like Canada went up.
In 2005 the U.S. Crude Oil Supply & Disposition was at a total of 1,868,990,000 barrels while imports came in at 3,670,403,000...so the U.S. actually imported about half of it's supply. And of course the U.S. exports some of its oil as well....15,089,000 barrels in 2005.


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back on track...go Mackie
 
i use a mackie 24/8 in the studio and a behringer 2442mx for live. the 2442mx has been as reliable as anything else, actually it takes more abuse than my mackie and keeps on going. my mackie is in a clean studio enviroment and i have a few channels that have just plain stopped working.
 
TheDewd said:
Mackie is an excellent AMERICAN made and OWNED company.
At least, last time I checked, their products were made with pride in the USA, but some have reported imports, avoid them at all costs.
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Just though I'd let you know. All mackie gear is made overseas now. Except maybe a few speaker cabs too big to ship. Yes even the famed 1604vlzpro is now a product of small hands in a land far from here.
 
Greg Mackie sucks dog dicks.

Berhinger sucks donkey dicks.

What's your preference??????
 
petermiller said:
Just though I'd let you know. All mackie gear is made overseas now. Except maybe a few speaker cabs too big to ship. Yes even the famed 1604vlzpro is now a product of small hands in a land far from here.
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Ok so now it's confirmed...:(
Mackie is on a great decline and people should aim at English or European made brands (or other USA brands).
I have no respect for a company that outsources to ASIA.
 
bennychico11 said:
not to get off track....but you have to take into account what's going on in the middle east right now and how much production has diminished recently. Prior to the war in 2000 the U.S. imported 36,400,000 more barrels than they did in 2005. While imports from countries like Canada went up.
In 2005 the U.S. Crude Oil Supply & Disposition was at a total of 1,868,990,000 barrels while imports came in at 3,670,403,000...so the U.S. actually imported about half of it's supply. And of course the U.S. exports some of its oil as well....15,089,000 barrels in 2005.


Source


back on track...go Mackie
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How do you import twice as much as you make and come to the conclusion that it amounts to half of your supply?

Another off-topic comment....before the war Saudi Arabia was (and surely still is) in the top 3 suppliers to the US. Iraq was about 10th. We recieved more oil from Canada, Mexico (as mentioned), and even Venezuela, and Nigeria than we did from Iraq. but the Saudi Amount made up for that disparity so that Middle East sources still end up in the top 5 or so.

As far as a mixer goes....buy a Mackie.

Better yet....buy my Mackie 24.4 VLZ. email me if interested.
 
I use both Mackie and Behringer. I've had problems with power supplies on the Behringers. The Mackies appear bulletproof.

The CFX mixer was made in the U.S. It uses decent preamps that are one step below the XDR preamp designs. They are still better than the Behr. preamps, but not by much. Using a DMP-3 preamp is an improvement.

The ONYX mixer is a large 1640 and is absolutely fantastic. It was also $1,700. It and the rest of the ONYX mixers are made in Asia.

I believe the DFX line superseded the CFX mixers and is now made in China.

My Mackie SRM450 powered cabs were bought before Greg Mackie sold the company to Loud Technologies. They were designed and made in Italy. Mackie bought the Italian speaker company; I don't think they were ever made in the U.S. They are now built in China, I believe. My cabs sound great and are very tough.

I've always hade an issue with Behringer for ripping off the designs of other manufacturers, especially Mackie. I think that's one of the reasons Mackie had to move so much production to China. Another reason is that the only way Mackie could survive in this environment was to join forces with greater liquidity - meaning sell the company.

But as to the two brands, I would still go for Mackie first. If being made in America is a deal braker, you still have Carvin and Peavey to choose from in this price range; both make decent gear and neither will knock your socks off.
 
theboy said:
jesus christ buddy. your "patriotism" aside, what the fuck?

honestly, thinking like that is just stupid. plain stupid. You know the oil you use to drive your car, thats an import? Perhaps you can brew some yourself in the good old U S of A?

i really dont know what to say? im shocked...
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All patriotism aside, Chinese quality control is an abomination. So yes, US made Mackie (that may mean buying older models) would be better than Chinese made Behringer just for that reason alone. But Products made in Japan, Germany, Canada, the UK and even Taiwan are also preferable to Chinese made.

This has nothing to do with flag-waving. The fact is the few US companies that still manufacture products in America generally have superior workmanship and QC.

Not everything from China will necessarily suck, but it’s a crapshoot. You may luck out, but you may not.
 
yeah like some others said .. i wouldt limit your self to those 2 brands .. look around theres many brands !

find one you like and then post it on here and ask what everyone thinks .. thats what i do with gear :D
 
MCreel said:
How do you import twice as much as you make and come to the conclusion that it amounts to half of your supply?
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oops, math was wrong...my bad
I was dividing US production by imports....need to divide US production by total oil supply:
US imports about 66% in 2005
 
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Ok, sidetracking but since it seems to actually be getting discussed...

"In the early 1970s, the United States imported approximately one third of the oil it consumed. Today, it imports almost 60 percent and by 2025, so the Energy Department forecasts, the US will probably have to import 65 percent of its oil. "

America does not supply 60% of its own oil.
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Also, if you're looking for a mixer on a budget, I hear great things about yamaha mg (the series w/o effects built in). That said, I seems to hear better things about mackie than yamaha, but from what I remember when shopping around mackie tends to run more.
 
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