M-Audio Delta 1010

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This soundcard seems to fulfill my needs - it has 10 inputs and midi compatibility and zero latency monitoring. Just before i reached into my diminutive pockets i thought id ask if anyone had any experience with this soundcard and their thoughts regarding it.
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Jonathan Gilmore
 
What kind of setup will you be encorperating it into?

I've been using my Delta 1010 for about 5 years now. I use it with an outboard mixer and two Delta 410 PCI's for 12in/24out and mix outside the box.

It actualy only has 8 analog inputs and outputs, then you have S/PDIF in and out which I use...the S/PDIF in to record form the digital output of one of my outboard mic pre's and the S/PDIF out when transporting a mix out of the box to DAT or minidisk, you could also use it for digital monitors.

I think it's a solid card. Never had any problems with the three Delta cards in my system. If there's anything specific you want to know, just ask,

Alec
 
So many Questions...

Right. Well i discovered that the card i was looking at was not a 1010 but a 1010 lt. The 1010 lt is apparently basically the same card, but with all the wires coming out of the card rather than having to run it in to a patching bay. This is obviously a cheaper solution. Basically all i want is to be able to record multiple inputs as discreet (seperate) channels on cubase. A mixing desk is obviously more expensive and i would need to upgrade my soundcard anyway, because it is nasty and as a result is limiting quality and latency (by over a second!!).
My inputs will be mostly 1/4" jack leads. Do you know if this card (the LT) has the 8 analogue inputs as female jack heads? If not what are they? what does it mean by I/O? and unbalenced inputs?
Does the LT have midi compatibility?
Sorry if im asking stupid questions, the sea of jargon on all the sales websites has confused me no end.

Thanks alot
JG
 

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the lt is unbalanced and the convertors are on the card instead of in the breakout box so the signal to noise ratio isn't quite as good.


Also, all the ins and outs on the lt are on moulded plugs. To me that's a potential nightmare. If I was gonna be swapping cables in and out of the lt I'd have it permanently hard wired to a patch bay and do all my switching from there.


I hadn't seen a 1010lt card up close like that untill now...it looks really crammed compared to the real deal 1010. More components = more heat = more noise
 
I am using the LT. It is a great card. Just get you a couple 1/4" to RCA 8 channel snakes from www.pulsartech.com and you are golden. There really is not a noise issue. Mine is shoved into a noisey Dell and I have had no problems. There is a small learning curve but nothing that a normal person cannot overcome. I recommend it highly. I am going to get another one as well just for kicks.
 
My vote is for the Delta 1010 (with the box). I looked at both and went with the 1010 because of the balanced I/O. Depends on your need and goal - if it's for fun and learning you might want the cheaper option so you can go bigger if you want to upgrade

Jacob
 
Thunder33 said:
There is a small learning curve but nothing that a normal person cannot overcome.
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I can attest to the fact that even a slightly abnormal person can overcome the learning curve... so far...

I'm loving mine.
More inputs/outputs than I know what to do with!
I've had to become creative in the placement of so many inputs outputs.

I walk funny.
 
I do appreciate that the LT is an inferior card but, hey its my first and im absolutely skint. So the cheap LT it is. It inspires confidence that you've been ok with it using a dell (as thats what i intend to install it in). Upgrading dells is a bitch.
What is the SPDIF for? what are they used for?
On the RCA to 1/4" leads there is two 1/4" male heads. Does this mean i could run Left and right on these as seperate channels within cubase and effectively have 16 channels to play with?
Many Thanks
JG
 
Gilmore89 said:
I do appreciate that the LT is an inferior card but, hey its my first and im absolutely skint. So the cheap LT it is. It inspires confidence that you've been ok with it using a dell (as thats what i intend to install it in). Upgrading dells is a bitch.
What is the SPDIF for? what are they used for?
On the RCA to 1/4" leads there is two 1/4" male heads. Does this mean i could run Left and right on these as seperate channels within cubase and effectively have 16 channels to play with?
Many Thanks
JG
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no, you only have 8 channels. It says 10 but 2 are digital (spdif). The cables you need will have one RCA on one end and one 1/4" on the other. Or in my case, I have snakes with 8 on each end.
 
SpdIF?

SPdif cables? What kind of sources have spdif outputs?
JG
 
Gilmore89 said:
SPdif cables? What kind of sources have spdif outputs?
JG
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Some CD players, Minidisk, DVD players. and some mic pre's have them
Like the ART Digital MPA Gold it has a SPDIF output but im sure there lots more to.
 
Another 1010lt fan

I just recently added a second 1010lt to my setup.
It was a piece of cake it found the driver from the
previous card. All it took was one mouse click.

I'm running a MX3242X mixer using all 16 channels
I'm using 4 of the RCA to 1/4" 8 channel snake cables.
16 directs outs from the mixer to the 1010's inputs.
16 B mix ins to the 1010s outputs.

Life is good :D

I do need to do something in the preamp department
perhaps a couple dual channel tube preamps.

This setup seems to be all I'll ever need for GTP3.
 
I have a 1010, and a 1010LT, working so far so good. I've done some tests, and eveything seems to work. Soon I'll be trying it out for some live 16 track recording, then I'll be satisfied that it works.

One thing I've noticed: Recording, no problem, but when I play back, if I use the outputs of both 1010's at the same time, the output of the LT sounds like the timing is off, sketchy. Hard to describe. Like it's time squishing the audio. Speeding it up without altering the pitch. Very un-natural sounding.

Any ideas, Lemontree? Thunder? RandyW?
 
maestro_dmc said:
I have a 1010, and a 1010LT, working so far so good. I've done some tests, and eveything seems to work. Soon I'll be trying it out for some live 16 track recording, then I'll be satisfied that it works.

One thing I've noticed: Recording, no problem, but when I play back, if I use the outputs of both 1010's at the same time, the output of the LT sounds like the timing is off, sketchy. Hard to describe. Like it's time squishing the audio. Speeding it up without altering the pitch. Very un-natural sounding.

Any ideas, Lemontree? Thunder? RandyW?
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Definately sounds like a sync issue probably being caused by mismatched sample rates.

Are you using windows XP?

in the M-Audio control panel under the hardware settings tab, where it says Master Clock should be set to Internal Xtal

Multitrack Driver Devices should be set to multiple card sync

Make sure your sample rates and DMA buffer sizes are set the same

Do all the above and save the setting then double check nothing has jumped out of place when you switch between both cards under H/w instaled on the right of the panel
 
synch problems

Maestro, I just installed my 2nd card a couple of days ago and haven't done much with it but I haven't noticed anything out of the normal regarding timing.
Lemontrees suggestions on synching in the control panel sound like a good place to start. I believe mine are both set up identical but I'm at work right now so I can't tell you for sure what they are.
I've been experimenting with different attempts of installing compressors into my setup ordered XLR connectors but looks i need insert cables instead. Hopefully I'll be able to get to trying some complete 16 track sessions soon.

BTW: I'm using a Intel MB, P4 with 1GB RAM and Win2000 OS SP4
I've read of some having issues with XP.
 
RandyW said:
I've read of some having issues with XP.
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That comment is about 3 years out of date. A driver issue that caused multiple cards not to synch together properly has long been resolved.
 
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