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mattfrye14
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does anybody here have one of these, i was deciding between the flextone and the spider 212 and the ax2 212...i cant find the ax2 on line 6.com though...well anyway doesn anyone have anyone of these amps?
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Henri Devill
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I've got a Flextone 2...I also had a 1 and the 2 is much better..Its good for live playin' and quickie recording{like a Pod}..Cleaner sounds are better than the heavier sounds..Its not a tube amp so it won't exactly sound like one..However its a good bang for the buck..AX2 same thing..Good luck
Don
Don
Track Rat
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I have an AX2 with the foot controller. Very, very nice amp.
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Flextone II plus..................
Very , very cool!
Very , very cool!
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mattfrye14
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is the ax2 no longer in production because i cant find it on their website
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Analytical Man
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line 6
The Line 6 flextones are very nice. I own a full Line 6 stack, the 200 watt one. it is the shit. The smaller ones are great too. The 100 watt spider i also own and i use it for recording. It is an awesome amp, and quite gig worthy. I'd go with the spider 212 unless you are gonna be playing arenas and need massive power, then go with the flextone full stack.
The Line 6 flextones are very nice. I own a full Line 6 stack, the 200 watt one. it is the shit. The smaller ones are great too. The 100 watt spider i also own and i use it for recording. It is an awesome amp, and quite gig worthy. I'd go with the spider 212 unless you are gonna be playing arenas and need massive power, then go with the flextone full stack.
pchorman
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I've been gigging with an AX2 for the last year and a half. Its a versatile amp. No longer manufactured, as already stated, but is still available.
In general their whole line of DMAs is good.
In general their whole line of DMAs is good.
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Kevzmusic
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Hi,
The Line 6 amps are very good, especially the new model VETTA.......I use the Flextone II Special edition....it sounds good.....plus the POD 2.0, for PC recordings, etc....
My brother also uses them.....but recently purchased the new VOX Valvetronix 120W (with 2 x 12" speakers) for $800 USD.....and he reckons that it's much better than the line 6 amps.
So, better go check out the VOX as well.....
KEV
The Line 6 amps are very good, especially the new model VETTA.......I use the Flextone II Special edition....it sounds good.....plus the POD 2.0, for PC recordings, etc....
My brother also uses them.....but recently purchased the new VOX Valvetronix 120W (with 2 x 12" speakers) for $800 USD.....and he reckons that it's much better than the line 6 amps.
So, better go check out the VOX as well.....
KEV
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Creepy
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I have had nothing but problems (as a professional soundman and studio engineer) anytime someone uses a POD product! The sound is not very deep, and it is hard to get it to sit right with a real drum set either live or recorded. With synthetic drum sounds, it fits better but still leaves me wanting something with some meat to the sound.
I just mixed sound for a band who's guitar player had a publishing deal for several years with Warner/Chapel who had a modified Marshall JCM 800 with a Bedrock 4X12 cabinet. It was absolutely gorgeous sounding! It just plain sounds like a rock guitar should. It will go from clean, half distorted, to nasty distorted with the guy just adjusting the volume on his guitar (gotta have a 250K ohm pot in the guitar to get that variety of gain though....).
Another guy that same night have a Marshall JCM 2000. While it lacked a bit of the "weight" of the 800, it sounded quite good with the guys '63 reissue Les Paul Custom.
POD products just sound like toys. I suppose for a very limited range of genre's they work somewhat decently, but they certainly never exceed the sound of a "real" amp.
Creepy
I just mixed sound for a band who's guitar player had a publishing deal for several years with Warner/Chapel who had a modified Marshall JCM 800 with a Bedrock 4X12 cabinet. It was absolutely gorgeous sounding! It just plain sounds like a rock guitar should. It will go from clean, half distorted, to nasty distorted with the guy just adjusting the volume on his guitar (gotta have a 250K ohm pot in the guitar to get that variety of gain though....).
Another guy that same night have a Marshall JCM 2000. While it lacked a bit of the "weight" of the 800, it sounded quite good with the guys '63 reissue Les Paul Custom.
POD products just sound like toys. I suppose for a very limited range of genre's they work somewhat decently, but they certainly never exceed the sound of a "real" amp.
Creepy
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Kevzmusic
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Yes, I do agree with Creepy here...
The Line 6 amps are good....but the guitar POD 2.0 is rather lacking in depth & tonal quality....It's OK, has a few decent sounds to it...but one can't really combine the effects, so it's flexibility is limited.
But. at only $250 USD or so, it's not a bad product for home guitar enthusiasts.....it's *mobility* factor is probably its best feature really....it only weighs 4 lbs, so ya can carry it anywhere
IF you want a decent guitar processor, then buy something like a Digi, etc.....
The new VOX Velvetronix 120W amp w/ 2 x 12" definitely has more amp/effect options than the Line 6, and a wider range of tonal/sounds, etc.....
and is about the same price as the Line 6 Vetta....
KEV
The Line 6 amps are good....but the guitar POD 2.0 is rather lacking in depth & tonal quality....It's OK, has a few decent sounds to it...but one can't really combine the effects, so it's flexibility is limited.
But. at only $250 USD or so, it's not a bad product for home guitar enthusiasts.....it's *mobility* factor is probably its best feature really....it only weighs 4 lbs, so ya can carry it anywhere
IF you want a decent guitar processor, then buy something like a Digi, etc.....
The new VOX Velvetronix 120W amp w/ 2 x 12" definitely has more amp/effect options than the Line 6, and a wider range of tonal/sounds, etc.....
and is about the same price as the Line 6 Vetta....
KEV
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POD GOD
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I love my POD and wouldn't trade it for anything!
I think the biggest reason some people don't like it is they try using it through an amp or in a live situation. The POD was created as a recording tool and, IMO, that's all it should be used for. Don't get me wrong, I've heard some great live POD tones but it takes alot of tweaking to get it right.
I think the biggest reason some people don't like it is they try using it through an amp or in a live situation. The POD was created as a recording tool and, IMO, that's all it should be used for. Don't get me wrong, I've heard some great live POD tones but it takes alot of tweaking to get it right.
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Creepy
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I think POD GOD has misunderstood me. I have recorded the POD so many times that I cannot count. Usually, unless the band is too cheap, it is just for scratch tracks because it is easy to get going with a somewhat decent enough sound for the drummer to hear, and it eliminates bleed problems.
But when push comes to shove, and I need guitars that are heavy in the mix, and they need clarity, weight, and JUST the right saturation, the POD don't cut it at all with real drums! It sounds fake, and after mixing songs that had POD tracks used, I hear complaints about the guitars not being up to par. Thin is a word used a lot, even though the most annoying thing is trying to get all the low mids out of the sound for it to like a real guitar amp does.
The POD is a good tool for working up demo's, for quick scratch tracks and 3 AM practice sessions, but it won't cut it on a decent production. Don't get me started on ANY Line 6 product used live! When I see one is going to be used, I just pretty much resign to the fact that the guitars at best will be weak in the mix and at worst unmixable. Although, I mixed a band the other night where the guitar player used one just for some delay via his effects loop. Worked okay for that.
I just recently retracked some guitar parts for a bands CD where they had used the POD before (this particular song was mixed once before as a CD Single for their fans) using a Marshall JCM 900 and a 1960 4X12. The mix before required a lot of tweeking on the POD tracks to get them to sit in the mix. These new tracks sound exactly how we need them for the song unaltered. Trust me, we tried the POD, but it was just the same old sound they had before, and I really wanted to avoid having to tweek the guitars on a digital console at mix time. So, we spent the time to get an amp to sound how we needed it, and the guitars have a much more pleasing sound to them.
Creepy
But when push comes to shove, and I need guitars that are heavy in the mix, and they need clarity, weight, and JUST the right saturation, the POD don't cut it at all with real drums! It sounds fake, and after mixing songs that had POD tracks used, I hear complaints about the guitars not being up to par. Thin is a word used a lot, even though the most annoying thing is trying to get all the low mids out of the sound for it to like a real guitar amp does.
The POD is a good tool for working up demo's, for quick scratch tracks and 3 AM practice sessions, but it won't cut it on a decent production. Don't get me started on ANY Line 6 product used live! When I see one is going to be used, I just pretty much resign to the fact that the guitars at best will be weak in the mix and at worst unmixable. Although, I mixed a band the other night where the guitar player used one just for some delay via his effects loop. Worked okay for that.
I just recently retracked some guitar parts for a bands CD where they had used the POD before (this particular song was mixed once before as a CD Single for their fans) using a Marshall JCM 900 and a 1960 4X12. The mix before required a lot of tweeking on the POD tracks to get them to sit in the mix. These new tracks sound exactly how we need them for the song unaltered. Trust me, we tried the POD, but it was just the same old sound they had before, and I really wanted to avoid having to tweek the guitars on a digital console at mix time. So, we spent the time to get an amp to sound how we needed it, and the guitars have a much more pleasing sound to them.
Creepy
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I'ts getting kinda creepy in here.
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I'ts getting kinda creepy in here.
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deadeye
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Creepy ... what genre of music are you recording?
A local Austin lead guitarist with 30 years stage experience and credits on BUNCHES of albums loves his POD and he sends nothing but great sound into my Delta 1010. Didn't sound thin to me ...
Sounds like you just don't like Line 6. I'm an old Fender Deluxe man myself, but some of these new modeling amps sound pretty good.
A local Austin lead guitarist with 30 years stage experience and credits on BUNCHES of albums loves his POD and he sends nothing but great sound into my Delta 1010. Didn't sound thin to me ...
Sounds like you just don't like Line 6. I'm an old Fender Deluxe man myself, but some of these new modeling amps sound pretty good.
Track Rat
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Amps and PODs and all the others are just tools. It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.
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Kevzmusic
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Well, OK...
The POD isn't that BAD, I do use it quite a bit for recording straight into the PC, etc..., but it certainly doesn't produce the tonal uuummmmph! that a real AMP does, and not being able to "combine" the different effects is kinda limiting...But, like I said a few posts back...for $250 bucks, it's pretty good...
Also, I do find that too many of the amp models are very similar sounding to one another...
I used the POD on a couple of my recent tunes up on ACIDplanet
("West Bank Paradox" & "The Red Man")...if ya wanna take a listen...
http://www.acidplanet.com/Lounge/ArtistDetail.asp?ArtistID=78884
Most respondants actually do seem to really like the guitar sound..., but I find it a bit *thin* myself....
KEV
The POD isn't that BAD, I do use it quite a bit for recording straight into the PC, etc..., but it certainly doesn't produce the tonal uuummmmph! that a real AMP does, and not being able to "combine" the different effects is kinda limiting...But, like I said a few posts back...for $250 bucks, it's pretty good...
Also, I do find that too many of the amp models are very similar sounding to one another...
I used the POD on a couple of my recent tunes up on ACIDplanet
("West Bank Paradox" & "The Red Man")...if ya wanna take a listen...
http://www.acidplanet.com/Lounge/ArtistDetail.asp?ArtistID=78884
Most respondants actually do seem to really like the guitar sound..., but I find it a bit *thin* myself....
KEV
JMarcomb
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Track Rat said:
boy... track rat you are on the money.
Ive seen great music played with pots and pans
Speeddemon
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I've rehearsed a couple of times with a band (drums, vocals, bassguitar, 2 elec. guitars) and both guitars (I was one of the guitar players) were plugged in Flextone combo's. Although without the band playing it sounds decent, the sound 'stays in the amp' with the band 'engaged'... It lacks depth and punch.
Therefore I think it will have better use for recording.
My take on this is that Line6 modelled amp-sounds to RECORDED amp sound. A POD doesn't sound like a guitar amp in front of you. It sounds like the sound you hear coming from a CD or something.
Besides, I a/b-ed the POD 2.0 vs. the Johnson J-Station and Digitech Genesis 3, and the Genesis 3 smokes 'em!
Genesis 3 DOES have great effects with lots of editability (sp?) and no matter what, you'll always have seperate compression, reverb and delay sections.
The Genesis 3 HAS 24 bit converters and works at a 44.1kHz sampling rate. The POD has 18 or 20 bit converters and works at 31.250Hz sampling rate.
The POD has only 2 things going for it:
-The Soldano amp sim (Modern Hi Gain)
-sturdiness.
Really, if you know tube amps and are WILLING to give digital amp modelling a try, try the Genesis 3 vs. the POD. And don't come back crying... I warned ya! 
Therefore I think it will have better use for recording.
My take on this is that Line6 modelled amp-sounds to RECORDED amp sound. A POD doesn't sound like a guitar amp in front of you. It sounds like the sound you hear coming from a CD or something.
Besides, I a/b-ed the POD 2.0 vs. the Johnson J-Station and Digitech Genesis 3, and the Genesis 3 smokes 'em!
Genesis 3 DOES have great effects with lots of editability (sp?) and no matter what, you'll always have seperate compression, reverb and delay sections.
The Genesis 3 HAS 24 bit converters and works at a 44.1kHz sampling rate. The POD has 18 or 20 bit converters and works at 31.250Hz sampling rate.
The POD has only 2 things going for it:
-The Soldano amp sim (Modern Hi Gain)
-sturdiness.
Really, if you know tube amps and are WILLING to give digital amp modelling a try, try the Genesis 3 vs. the POD. And don't come back crying... I warned ya!
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JesusFreak
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I own a Line6 Spyder and I love it. Now granted, I havent' recorded with it yet and I don't play in front of 50,000 people but for what I have done with it, it's great. I love the clarity of the sound that you get along with separtate drive and channel volume allows you to keep the intensity of the sound no matter where the volume is. Most tube amps, when the volume is turned down a bit, lose the rasp or real dirty sound if that is what you are looking for.
Just my two cents.
God Bless!
Just my two cents.
God Bless!