let me see your studio!

[WhiteStrat]

This is what I'm work'in with over here. Doesn't look like much, but really gets the job done for hip/hop recording. And the cat keeps all the ladies occupied....

Good call with the kitty...

 

[Weasel9992]

This is what I'm work'in with over here. Doesn't look like much, but really gets the job done for hip/hop recording. And the cat keeps all the ladies occupied....

Looks good...take a second look at the monitor placement though. Looks too wide...preferences vary, of course.

Frank

 

[Big Jinx]

Yeah, having them on the desk in front of me kills my ears with bass and gives me a pretty bad stereo image on a mix. This config keeps the bass in check for my room and provides a VERY ACCURATE image for my mixes. I thought the same thing, but was recommended by someone who's been in the industry for 20+ years.

 

[KineticSound]

Jinx,
How do you like your RTA desk? I'm looking for a new desk and I'm torn between the RTA's and Middle Atlantic...

David

 

[Big Jinx]

LOL, I really had to like the RTA since it was free off of Craigslist!!!

 

[solo2racr]

Here's a couple pics of my little rig. Using a 5 year old puter for this, I try to limit the number of plugins by using some outboard gear. In/On the rack from top to bottom is a SoundCraft E8 mixer, Alesis Midiverb III, Alesis M-EQ 230, Alesis 3630 compressor, AP Audio Patchbay, NAD 2100 Monitor amp. The monitors themselves I built. I have listened to them for many years and can hear things in them that I can't in alot of other speakers. Their response is reasonably flat but, I know them and that's what's important.

 

[smuffjules]

this is what we're building....

Well, I won't have a Neve Console, but I'll have an Allen and Heath GS 3000 in there.
It's a garage building.
I'll be putting some bass traps everywhere for sure, especially in those acute angles, but the whole building measures 32 x 24.
I really need all the booths, and this is the best way to use the space that I could figure without wasting any...

 

[Freudian Slip]

Well, I won't have a Neve Console, but I'll have an Allen and Heath GS 3000 in there.
It's a garage building.
I'll be putting some bass traps everywhere for sure, especially in those acute angles, but the whole building measures 32 x 24.
I really need all the booths, and this is the best way to use the space that I could figure without wasting any...

Looks pretty cool to me! I would personally move the center wall 3 or 4 feet into the control room to allow for a larger live space. You could put the door to the vocal booth on the other side of the wall. That would still leave you about 12 to 13 feet front to back on the control room and allow for a bit more respectable live room.

Just a thought.

F.S.

 

[smuffjules]

Looks pretty cool to me! I would personally move the center wall 3 or 4 feet into the control room to allow for a larger live space. You could put the door to the vocal booth on the other side of the wall. That would still leave you about 12 to 13 feet front to back on the control room and allow for a bit more respectable live room.

Just a thought.

F.S.

Yes, Actually we have done almost that. This drawing isn't quite to scale, but we have probably a 13.5ft control room, and a 16 ft or so main room.
We have the main room to the control room wall as a double 2x4, and the other walls we're doing 6" staggered studs 24" all using 5/8th sheet rock.
We have the main wall done, the splayed wall done and one other wall built but not in place yet (the one between the two iso booths).

I have the mains wiring done, and really want to get all the xlr's started from the rooms to the control room.

I'm thinking of using an 8 channel snake to the drum area, and wiring the rest with a roll of belden or something.
Probably 8 more channels around the main room, and 4 in each iso. Maybe 6 in the piano room.
Probably never need them all, but you never know. It's no harm done and very little extra expense.
Any advice on wiring??
I'll go from xlr's in the room to a trs patchbay straight into the desk and have the option of coming out the front of the patchbay into the various pre's that I have.
Thanks

 

[mixmkr]

I presuming it's a picture only, but you did mention "piano room". How are you going to get the piano into that room?

 

[solo2racr]

Here's a couple pics of my little rig. Using a 5 year old puter for this, I try to limit the number of plugins by using some outboard gear. In/On the rack from top to bottom is a SoundCraft E8 mixer, Alesis Midiverb III, Alesis M-EQ 230, Alesis 3630 compressor, AP Audio Patchbay, NAD 2100 Monitor amp. The monitors themselves I built. I have listened to them for many years and can hear things in them that I can't in alot of other speakers. Their response is reasonably flat but, I know them and that's what's important.

I forgot to add (can't edit the original post) that the sides and front trim on the SoundCraft E8 are hand made out of Red Oak with Purple Heart highlights. With it sitting on top of the rack, I couldn't see the controls very well so I had to tilt it up for a better view. I think the wood sides give it a much better look than the factory plastic sides do.

 

[smuffjules]

I presuming it's a picture only, but you did mention "piano room". How are you going to get the piano into that room?

The movers can do it.
They tip them on their side and roll them into position.
I think I've left enough space to have the piano in there.
I've seen them work before when we had the piano moved from our last house to this one, but if they happen to say "No way" then I guess it's just another iso booth! I'll get an upright in there or something, but I think it'll be okay. Or, worst case scenario, might have to rip a wall out. Ouch! With guts, determination, and pig headed stupidity, we can achieve almost anything.
Also, I was thinking about maybe having a sliding glass door to the vocal booth so as to save that swinging door space..... good idea, or reflection issues????

 

[X man Da Legend]

 

[NeveSSL]

Not to be nosey, but Kevin, buddy you may want to take this picture down:

It has a bill on it with a TON of your info on it, bro!

Brandon

 

[NeveSSL]

Yes, Actually we have done almost that. This drawing isn't quite to scale, but we have probably a 13.5ft control room, and a 16 ft or so main room.
We have the main room to the control room wall as a double 2x4, and the other walls we're doing 6" staggered studs 24" all using 5/8th sheet rock.
We have the main wall done, the splayed wall done and one other wall built but not in place yet (the one between the two iso booths).

I have the mains wiring done, and really want to get all the xlr's started from the rooms to the control room.

I'm thinking of using an 8 channel snake to the drum area, and wiring the rest with a roll of belden or something.
Probably 8 more channels around the main room, and 4 in each iso. Maybe 6 in the piano room.
Probably never need them all, but you never know. It's no harm done and very little extra expense.
Any advice on wiring??
I'll go from xlr's in the room to a trs patchbay straight into the desk and have the option of coming out the front of the patchbay into the various pre's that I have.
Thanks

As far as wiring goes, my only advice is be consistent and thorough. Maybe run a few extra cables to each room and just leave them in the wall perhaps... just in case. It would be a lot easier to do it now than later. Also labeling and having a "schematic", so to speak, of all the wires could be really handy in troubleshooting. I would also recommend running Cat5 (or Cat6) to each room. It can be used for just about anything (audio, low power, all kinds of stuff). Just my $0.02 tho.

Brandon

 

[Slowjett]

Well I finally got a digital Camera and got to take a few pics of my place I built about 2 years ago.

Cool setup, how big is the drum room? How high is the ceiling? And is that your overhead setup in the pic? Also did you make your own absorbers?

-josh

 

[smuffjules]

As far as wiring goes, my only advice is be consistent and thorough. Maybe run a few extra cables to each room and just leave them in the wall perhaps... just in case. It would be a lot easier to do it now than later. Also labeling and having a "schematic", so to speak, of all the wires could be really handy in troubleshooting. I would also recommend running Cat5 (or Cat6) to each room. It can be used for just about anything (audio, low power, all kinds of stuff). Just my $0.02 tho.

Brandon

What about having a sliding glass door on the vocal booth? Will that have an adverse effect on the sound due to reflections? I'm intending to maybe carpet the whole room out, or at least have it as dead a possible.
How much difference will a glass door have? See the pic a few quotes above..

 

[rayc]

Guitars hanging on the walls look really good but I've always worried that they'd resonate etc when recording in the space. How far off track am I on that assumption?

 

[pandamonk]

What about having a sliding glass door on the vocal booth? Will that have an adverse effect on the sound due to reflections? I'm intending to maybe carpet the whole room out, or at least have it as dead a possible.
How much difference will a glass door have? See the pic a few quotes above..

Yeah glass doesn't have good reflections, but a lot of people like to see each other in the studio. The sliding door for your booth is right in the first reflection point of the control room, which is a bad idea (you wanna hang some kind of absorption there). Maybe a single glass door with thick glass away from the first reflection pointn or swap the booth position with toilet, or whatever.

Carpet on the walls is a really bad idea. It only affects high frequencies and is a fire hazard. Search "rigid fiberglass" in this forum.

 

[smuffjules]

Yeah glass doesn't have good reflections, but a lot of people like to see each other in the studio. The sliding door for your booth is right in the first reflection point of the control room, which is a bad idea (you wanna hang some kind of absorption there). Maybe a single glass door with thick glass away from the first reflection pointn or swap the booth position with toilet, or whatever.

Carpet on the walls is a really bad idea. It only affects high frequencies and is a fire hazard. Search "rigid fiberglass" in this forum.

Well, I do have a bunch of convoluted foam i can put on the walls.
Like you say, maybe I could have a sliding double door, but only one panel partially of glass.
I might have to build it myself. Could be getting myself into a lot of work there, but it's be worth it just to save the swing space on a standard door.
The toilet really needs to be where it is, as the plumbing etc. is there, and it's in the most out of the way place too.
I'd like to be able to see the vocalist from the console area too.
I'll check out the fiberglass though.
I'll probably use that for the bass traps anyway.