lead Vocal --> shure SM 57

[Verraes]

Hey,

It's already for two days I'm trying to record a good lead vocal. However, the lead always sounds pretty far away ( not close enough and also not full). Is it because I need a condensor micro and not a dynamic (I only 2 dynamics ( shure SM 57 & SM 58)? Or can I help this out with a good mix?

 

[Kryogh]

hmm...you oshould be able to do something decent with the 57/58 mics. Can you describe the rest of the signal path?

 

[DaveDrummer]

the Sm57 and 58 are essentially the same thing, except for the shape of the grille. Just be careful about the proximity effect. the 58 has it a lot more than the 57 because of the shape.

 

[VSpaceBoy]

The not so obvious thing for me was the mic in. As I'm learning as I go.

I wasn't using a good mic preamp. That will make or break the vocals bar none. After hearing the good folks in here preach it, I started looking into a good mic pre, ESPECIALLY with a dynamic mic. As Kryogh suggested, what are you running it into?

Space

 

[StevenLindsey]

FWIW - I'm using my 57s/58 again since I've gotten an RNP. Sounds nice. Even with acoustic guitar. You've got to have the quiet gain for those mics to sound good on quieter sources.

 

[Verraes]

Hello,

I'm running it into a Behringer eurorack mx 602A. Then it goes into my layla. Then I insert a compressor, a eq en a desesser. I also duplicated the track. I panned the original to the right and the duplicate to the left with a little delay on it.

Thanks for answering me guys,

Steven Verraes

 

[VSpaceBoy]

Thats it.

The pres on that Behringer are killing you. I'm not as much of a Behringer hater as many in here since I only have one mixer. But that is exactly what I used first and it was really bad. Now I have the RNP and loving every bit of it. Like night and day. Now I use that bastard for everything.

Space

 

[Verraes]

Then I'm lucky. It's not mine. It's my friend's mixer.

Thanks for the advice

 

[FattMusiek]

A good preamp will make a 57 sound great for vocals. What mixer/preamps do you have?

 

[Leeking]

I do vocals with SM57 as well with Joemeek preamp.

I have the Beh602a as well, and it can give a decent result.

The thing I find with singing with SM57, for a good vocal sound, you need to be "eating" the mic... get real close. But you also need a pop filter with it....

 

[Fat_Satchel]

The thing I find with singing with SM57, for a good vocal sound, you need to be "eating" the mic... get real close. But you also need a pop filter with it....

I use a 57 for vocals thru a radio shack DJ mixer (preamp) and I can get "ok" results. As Leeking said...a pop filter is a must...about 4" away w/ your mouth about 2" from that.

 

[Verraes]

I'm running the signal into a behringer eurorack mx 602a. But dont ask me what the preams are? I never worked with a pop filter before. But when you work with a screen, you're loosing proximity? Can I make it myself?

Thanks

 

[Jblount]

Can I make it myself?

Yes, a coat hanger and a pair of pantyhose. Form the hanger in a 8" circle and cut the toe ont of the pantyhose. Thread the hose on the hanger, and there you go, dirt cheap pop filter. Use black hose, it looks more like a real filter, and the singer wont realize that they are singing through someones socks.

 

[Verraes]

I'll try.

Thanks